My Flying geckos :)
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Elizabeth Freer
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Hi DrJekyl MrHyde ~
Good to hear that you removed the mites
Keep checking for awhile as Palor is doing. There might be some chance you missed one, that the mites could have traveled to your cage furniture, or that mite eggs have hatched.
Generally people do not recommend keeping two males housed together in any vivarium under any circumstance. Definitely that could be the source of some of the stress. So you have 2 males and 1 female? Which is the sick one?
Good to hear that you have been feeding them with calcium. Make sure the sick one has a little dish in (her) cage so (she) can lick it whenever as well as dusting (her) food. Hope that you can get the calcium with D3 soon! Should be phosphorous-free calcium.
Good idea to let all the flyers bask in unfiltered sunlight! That means no glass between the sun rays and the flyer. Glass filters out the beneficial rays. That's why Palor suggests UVB/UVA lighting. Although I only use incandescent lights above my flyers' tanks, the crickets are fed, among other supplements, Fluker's High-Calcium Cricket Feed (which has vitamin D3). Your pet store might have a small container of that to gutload your crickets.
The recommended temperatures and humidity I have for Ptychozoon kuhli are: 28 C ( 82 F) day, 23 C (74 F) night, 80% humidity. I try, but I don't reach 80% humidity very consistently at all. I will stick the hygrometer in one of the tanks to check this out. Mine never have trouble shedding. In fact, I rarely see them shed.
Maybe MBD, yes. Don't think stress would cause the seizures/trembling.
Good to hear that (she) is shedding and improving with your care. Hopefully you have caught the problem in the nick of time
Good to hear that you removed the mites
Keep checking for awhile as Palor is doing. There might be some chance you missed one, that the mites could have traveled to your cage furniture, or that mite eggs have hatched.Generally people do not recommend keeping two males housed together in any vivarium under any circumstance. Definitely that could be the source of some of the stress. So you have 2 males and 1 female? Which is the sick one?
Good to hear that you have been feeding them with calcium. Make sure the sick one has a little dish in (her) cage so (she) can lick it whenever as well as dusting (her) food. Hope that you can get the calcium with D3 soon! Should be phosphorous-free calcium.
Good idea to let all the flyers bask in unfiltered sunlight! That means no glass between the sun rays and the flyer. Glass filters out the beneficial rays. That's why Palor suggests UVB/UVA lighting. Although I only use incandescent lights above my flyers' tanks, the crickets are fed, among other supplements, Fluker's High-Calcium Cricket Feed (which has vitamin D3). Your pet store might have a small container of that to gutload your crickets.
The recommended temperatures and humidity I have for Ptychozoon kuhli are: 28 C ( 82 F) day, 23 C (74 F) night, 80% humidity. I try, but I don't reach 80% humidity very consistently at all. I will stick the hygrometer in one of the tanks to check this out. Mine never have trouble shedding. In fact, I rarely see them shed.
Maybe MBD, yes. Don't think stress would cause the seizures/trembling.
Good to hear that (she) is shedding and improving with your care. Hopefully you have caught the problem in the nick of time
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DrJekyl_MrHyde
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The sick gecko seem to be a male...i have got 4 flying geckos ...2 male ,2 female all house together.But since the one of my gecko is sick ..i have house them each in a tank.
It seem better now ...thanks .
Anyway calcium with or without phosphorous.. what the different when i feed to reptiles?
i Got a bottle of calcium with phosphorous And another bottle phosphorous-free..
When should i feed calcium with phosphorous to reptiles or not ?
It seem better now ...thanks .
Anyway calcium with or without phosphorous.. what the different when i feed to reptiles?
i Got a bottle of calcium with phosphorous And another bottle phosphorous-free..
When should i feed calcium with phosphorous to reptiles or not ?
Elizabeth Freer
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Hi DrJekyl MrHyde ~
When you put your flyers back together, just place one male in each tank. Males can be really territorial to the point of outright aggression. A two foot tank seems pretty big, but still I recommend keeping the males in different tanks.
You're quite welcome! I'm glad the sick male seems better. I would like to see that he returns to his normal healthy self Perhaps one male is ailing because of too much stress when both males were together?
MBD = metabolic bone disease, just in case you may not have known.
Right now be sure to use the phosphorous-free calcium with D3 when you get it. You ask why phosphorous-free? I should know the answer! I know that crickets (and mealworms) contain phosphorous. One reason collard greens are highly recommended as a partial gutload for crickets, is that collard greens have a very high calcium to low phosphorous ratio. But, I don't know why too much phosphorous is "bad" for geckos. Maybe somebody else can post to this question of yours and mine?
I don't know if you should EVER feed calcium WITH added phosphorous to geckos.
When you put your flyers back together, just place one male in each tank. Males can be really territorial to the point of outright aggression. A two foot tank seems pretty big, but still I recommend keeping the males in different tanks.
You're quite welcome! I'm glad the sick male seems better. I would like to see that he returns to his normal healthy self
Perhaps one male is ailing because of too much stress when both males were together?MBD = metabolic bone disease, just in case you may not have known.
Right now be sure to use the phosphorous-free calcium with D3 when you get it. You ask why phosphorous-free? I should know the answer! I know that crickets (and mealworms) contain phosphorous. One reason collard greens are highly recommended as a partial gutload for crickets, is that collard greens have a very high calcium to low phosphorous ratio. But, I don't know why too much phosphorous is "bad" for geckos. Maybe somebody else can post to this question of yours and mine?
I don't know if you should EVER feed calcium WITH added phosphorous to geckos.
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Elizabeth Freer
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Phosphorous-free calcium vs calcium with phosphorous
Hi ~
Jenn, Pacific Northwest Herpetological Society, e-mailed me the following:
> Phosphorus is necessary to herps as a component of bones, but too much
> phosphorus impairs calcium absorption. Here is a paragraph from Melissa
> Kaplan's page on Melissa Kaplan's Herp and Green Iguana Information Collection about calcium and MBD:
>
> "Generally, equal amounts of soluble calcium and phosphorus ions are
> required for balance; ideally, the ratio of calcium to phosphorus should
> be 2:1. Too much calcium results in a phosphorus deficiency and impaired
> metabolic function. Too much phosphorus in the diet forms insoluble
> calcium phosphate which renders the calcium unusable; as the body
> continues to absorb the phosphorus, hypocalcemia—metabolic bone
> disease—results."
>
> A lot of veggies contain phosphorus so you have to feed a carefully
> balanced diet to iguanas and other herbivores. Additionally, most feeder
> insects have a poor Cah ratio, so you dust with Ca only to increase
> that side of the ratio. Here is a nutrition chart I found online that
> shows the Ca and Ph toward the right side:
>
> http://www.house-of-reptiles.com/feederinvertebrates.pdf
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Jenn
Thanks to Jenn!
Hi ~
Jenn, Pacific Northwest Herpetological Society, e-mailed me the following:
> Phosphorus is necessary to herps as a component of bones, but too much
> phosphorus impairs calcium absorption. Here is a paragraph from Melissa
> Kaplan's page on Melissa Kaplan's Herp and Green Iguana Information Collection about calcium and MBD:
>
> "Generally, equal amounts of soluble calcium and phosphorus ions are
> required for balance; ideally, the ratio of calcium to phosphorus should
> be 2:1. Too much calcium results in a phosphorus deficiency and impaired
> metabolic function. Too much phosphorus in the diet forms insoluble
> calcium phosphate which renders the calcium unusable; as the body
> continues to absorb the phosphorus, hypocalcemia—metabolic bone
> disease—results."
>
> A lot of veggies contain phosphorus so you have to feed a carefully
> balanced diet to iguanas and other herbivores. Additionally, most feeder
> insects have a poor Ca
h ratio, so you dust with Ca only to increase > that side of the ratio. Here is a nutrition chart I found online that
> shows the Ca and Ph toward the right side:
>
> http://www.house-of-reptiles.com/feederinvertebrates.pdf
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Jenn
Thanks to Jenn!
Elizabeth Freer
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Oops, thanks for the "loan"
Stealing my thread back
With the constant mite checks both my female flyers have become fairly hand tamed now
siz
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Stealing my thread back
With the constant mite checks both my female flyers have become fairly hand tamed now
Hahaha.
That's exciting!
I'm so jealous, they are a fantastic species!DrJekyl_MrHyde
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Palor loan ur tread again.... one of my female geckos have lay eggs on the glass...i cant take them out ..what do i do next?
Just leave it on the glass ?
Just leave it on the glass ?
Elizabeth Freer
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Congratulations!
I realize this thread has become intertwined. Maybe one of the mods could separate the posts?
Maybe DrJekyl_MrHyde could post a new thread specific to Flyer Laid an Egg on Glass?
My WC female Ptychozoon kuhli Natalie laid a clutch on 4/18/03. Sara hatched 68 days later and today is 5.5 years old. I just left the egg in place and sprayed a couple times daily. Next time I'll use Palor's suggestion to keep the humidity more constant.
I realize this thread has become intertwined. Maybe one of the mods could separate the posts?
Maybe DrJekyl_MrHyde could post a new thread specific to Flyer Laid an Egg on Glass?
My WC female Ptychozoon kuhli Natalie laid a clutch on 4/18/03. Sara hatched 68 days later and today is 5.5 years old. I just left the egg in place and sprayed a couple times daily. Next time I'll use Palor's suggestion to keep the humidity more constant.