leopard gecko- items i may need to keep him happy

Sinosauropteryx

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Criticizing distilled water

Yes I know what distilled water is. That bit about animals drinking contaminated water was not meant to imply that the distilled water you use was contaminated, only that animals will drink contaminated water readily. Meaning it wouldn't matter if someone had decided to add something to it for an animal to drink it. We therefore need to be the ones who are skeptical about the products our animals use. I guess distilled water relies just as much on its label to tell you what it is as does spring water so it requires the same amount of trust when buying it. I am just sceptical of manufactured products that people have done things to so I am always atleast a bit suspicious of them. But I can see this skepticism was not placed well. Will delete previous post momentarily.

If I may point something out though: Distilled water is not boiled water or water that has been left in the sun to kill bacteria. It is water liquified from steam that has been boiled and its purpose is to remove chemicals, not bacteria. If we only wanted to kill bacteria, we would just boil it as you say. Leaving ater out in the sun will not kill all bacteria either. If it did, we would be able to drink from any puddle or pond we found and not get sick. We can do this, but there is no guarantee we won't get sick. Besides, in the temperate parts of North America the chemical traces and impurities we get in our water are a lot more harmful than all but the most notoriously malicious bacteria so putting water out in the sun wouldn't do that much good anyway. Plus, cyanobacteria (blue-green algae) are bacteria and they need sunlight to photosynthesize and stay alive.

So I think we both need to look up information before we criticize it ;-) or learn not to be so critical :oops:
 

MellowMan24

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RO water is tap water that is run through 6 different filters its called reverse osmosis.
I got the gecko but its too dark to get pics:( but... i got 2 geckos!!! :yahoo::D
-Mack Snow het tremper
-normal het tremper
both supposed to be temp sexed female
 

Allee Toler

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If I may point something out though: Distilled water is not boiled water or water that has been left in the sun to kill bacteria. It is water liquified from steam that has been boiled and its purpose is to remove chemicals, not bacteria. If we only wanted to kill bacteria, we would just boil it as you say. Leaving ater out in the sun will not kill all bacteria either. If it did, we would be able to drink from any puddle or pond we found and not get sick. We can do this, but there is no guarantee we won't get sick. Besides, in the temperate parts of North America the chemical traces and impurities we get in our water are a lot more harmful than all but the most notoriously malicious bacteria so putting water out in the sun wouldn't do that much good anyway. Plus, cyanobacteria (blue-green algae) are bacteria and they need sunlight to photosynthesize and stay alive.

So I think we both need to look up information before we criticize it ;-) or learn not to be so critical :oops:

I'm not even going to say anything. Don't ever reply to one of my posts if you're going to say one thing, get questioned, then say "oh well I wasn't replying to you" when I was the only one posted about distilled water.

Lets starve. Lets not eat. Because our crops were watered with well water and rain water. Imagine those germs. If animals in the wild can survive on creek water, than so can a damn gecko in a glass box.
 
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MellowMan24

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i'm thinking for the normal Molly but i want something more original for the snow
oh and Sinosauropteryx you were right the snow loves the log cave thing and yes i made it so they cant get stuck.
RO water is like distilled its striped of heavy minerals and bacteria so my bet is its safe for my gecko and cheaper than buying bottled water
 

Sinosauropteryx

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Nothing wrong with natural water

Don't ever reply to one of my posts if you're going to say one thing, get questioned, then say "oh well I wasn't replying to you" when I was the only one posted about distilled water.

...but I was replying to you. ColdBlooded didn't say anything I could reply to. She did mention distilled water though...

Lets starve. Lets not eat. Because our crops were watered with well water and rain water. Imagine those germs. If animals in the wild can survive on creek water, than so can a damn gecko in a glass box.

I never said there was anything wrong with well water or rain water. If you think about it, rain ater doesn't really carry any germs because water completely evaporates upon returning to the sky during that part of the water cycle. So rain water might be a good way to go. All I am saying is that if we humans have done something to the water we are drinking, then we should really know what we did to it. Animals like leopard geckos have been drinking water with potential bacteria for thousands of years because that is just the way things are in the natural world. It's when we humans screw things up that it then becomes important to be more environmentally concious. For our own sake and those of the animals we keep.

@MellowMan24: That is great news. And I am glad your snow morph likes the rock hide :D Great name for the other one too, BTW.
 

midget

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ro be fine in terms of cleanleness but will be void of all minerals the reason it dosn't affect salt water tank inbalce of minerals is the salt you add has it, so i wouldn't you should be fine with tap tho. good luck
 

MellowMan24

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they are both in it they love it and thanks and i was thinking Leila-Hebrew name meaning "night" or "dark Oriental beauty."
 

MellowMan24

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ro be fine in terms of cleanleness but will be void of all minerals the reason it dosn't affect salt water tank inbalce of minerals is the salt you has it it, so i wouldn't you should be fine with tap tho. good luck

it has no salt in it
Edit: ohhhh now i get what your saying midget
 
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mynewturtle

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Ha, I'm almost positive you got your geckos from me yesterday. Glad you like them, they truely are a joy to keep.


Let me know if you need more ;-)

Congrats on the geckos, I'm glad I have the geckos in someones care who knows what they are doing.
 

Sinosauropteryx

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RO water?

Hey, sorry I missed out on a few of your posts back there. Wasn't trying to ignore you or anything.

RO water is tap water that is run through 6 different filters its called reverse osmosis.

RO water is like distilled its striped of heavy minerals and bacteria so my bet is its safe for my gecko and cheaper than buying bottled water

Oh cool. Does it come in bottles or some other container, or is it run straight from your tap?

and i was thinking Leila-Hebrew name meaning "night" or "dark Oriental beauty."

Wow, nice name...though kind of ironic for a snow, don't you think? ;)

BTW what does Molly look like? Does she have the same kind of pattern that other normals have or is she more unique? Sorry, I know very little about the different kinds of morphs out there now so I wouldn't know what to expect until I saw her.
 

MellowMan24

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i just read that the temp is supposed to go down at night (i know i should have check this before i got a gecko but i for got) and i pretty sure my temp stays the same all night long (83*F) how would i get it to go down at night but not too far down?
 

Allee Toler

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Mine don't go down. I don't see it as a necessity. To recreate their natural habitat, sure. Naturally it gets cooler at night. But I have no A/C, so I shut my windows at night, making my room stay the same temp it was all day. Lol. If I unplugged the UTH, it'd go down to around 68F.
 

Allee Toler

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If you think about it, rain ater doesn't really carry any germs because water completely evaporates upon returning to the sky during that part of the water cycle. So rain water might be a good way to go.

False. Rain water carried more bacteria than well water. Rain water harbors bacteria because: It falls through the sky, going through all the pollution. That's why you're not supposed to eat snowflakes. It's only as clean as the pollution in the area. When water evaporates, it takes along acids, and pollutants that are in liquid form into the clouds. That's why we can get acid rain. It's all part of the pollution cycle. I prefer to live in the country. I grew up on a 10 acre cattle and horse ranch, and recently moved to San Diego, which I highly regret. I've never "seen" pollution until I came out here. You can LITERALLY see it in the sky. I miss collecting chicken eggs in the mornings, letting the cows out, and enjoying fresh clean water run through a filtration system directly from our well. 3rd generation rancher. But I had to move out and prove myself. Lol. WORST mistake ever. I miss the farm...It was either farm or college.

"Normally you could drink rainwater without becoming ill.
However, rainwater contains pollutants, soil, plant parts,
insect parts, bacteria, algae, and sometimes radioactive
materials that the rain/snow has washed out of the air.
If filtered with one of the filtering systems that you
can buy in stores nowadays, and then boiled, you could
probably drink the water safely. However, it is safer yet
to get your water from municipal water supplies or from wells
that are frequently tested."
Drinking Rain Water
 

MellowMan24

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Mine don't go down. I don't see it as a necessity. To recreate their natural habitat, sure. Naturally it gets cooler at night. But I have no A/C, so I shut my windows at night, making my room stay the same temp it was all day. Lol. If I unplugged the UTH, it'd go down to around 68F.

so you keep your temps the same all the time. i can see why it wouldn't hurt.
 

Allee Toler

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When it starts to cool down at night, I'll leave my window open. But for now, it gets humid outside. And I don't like feeling sticky. Lol.

I also don't use a day/night light. I just pull back my curtains. That's plenty of light to make a natural day thing. =]
 

MellowMan24

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i have a UVB Bulb for day and a night bulb for the winter incase it gets too cold
and 2 pics (not the best )
Leila (kind bad quality)
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Molly's head sleeping:yawn:
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i'll get better ones tonight
 
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