MellowMan24
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well they didnt eat them so no i dont:lol: but you can
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MellowMan24
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yes but i all i know is that it ant be citric post on the feeder forum they might help more
ColdBlooded
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Really, you shouldn't feed them fruit. Their digestive system is not built to handle the high fructose content. I don't see why it would hurt as a rare treat but definitely not something I would feed often. Insectivores should eat insects. 
Allee Toler
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Really, you shouldn't feed them fruit. Their digestive system is not built to handle the high fructose content. I don't see why it would hurt as a rare treat but definitely not something I would feed often. Insectivores should eat insects.
agreed. My "normal" leopard gecko eats baby food about once every two weeks (usually mixed veggies or chicken dinner instead of fruit). And just a lick or two as a treat. Giovanna eats it regularly because she's on vets orders- give her what she'll eat just supplement her vitamins and calcium (I mix Hill's dog food with calcium and multi-vite, and a D3, and sneak it in the baby food once a week for each, I keep each mixture separate). I don't give fruit to her (with the exception of peaches, she'll die without them, I swear!), though I don't see why it would be a problem as a treat. I was assuming when he said treat, that it'd be at most once a week. It hasn't hurt my girl, so how could it hurt any others, as long is it's done sparingly. She gets fruit (fresh peaches) once a week, and that's it. My other, I won't give them to her at all. They're high in simplex sugars that spike the blood sugar levels, and then gets used in the same half hour. It's almost a waste of energy and their bodies keep the calories that go with it since fruit is low in carbs. I choose mixed vegetables because they too have simplex sugars, but because they have complex carbs, the carbs bind to the sugars, making the complex instead of simplex. I'm just going to stop there. I'm sure you're confused already. If you'd like you can stop now, I'm going to continue to explain below. =]
I'm hypoglycemic, so I had to learn food chemistry in order for me to eat properly. I've learned how to bind simplex with complex to make them a complex so my blood sugar doesn't crash. Like... If I want a candy bar, simplex sugar. I'll eat it, my glucose will drop, a way to stop that from happening is to eat high protein before and after. I do beef jerky. So the jerky complex stays in my blood stream longer, so when I go to crash, it picks me back up. Same thing would apply for all species. The combining sugars, not the low blood sugar. Your blood sugar would drop regularly, mine just drops in a matter of minutes after eating. I know that simplex burns quickly, so it's like a jolt of energy, then you crash. A gecko would have the same result. So I try to give them simplex carbs and simplex sugars. Complex gives them more energy, and for a steady period of time. =]
Wheww. =D
MellowMan24
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they wont eat the bananas so if any thing i will give them baby food and yes as a every other week treat if they eat it....and before i did mean treat
any ways back to my original question-
and i dont think the normal is nocturnal any more its been out all day! is it healthy if she is out during the day for all this time??
any ways back to my original question-
and i dont think the normal is nocturnal any more its been out all day! is it healthy if she is out during the day for all this time??
Allee Toler
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It's fine. It's not going to hurt her. Some will disagree saying it's not normal, or it'll screw up her schedule. But I say it's fine. I have one diurnal and one nocturnal. They're in the same tank. And they're both fine.
MellowMan24
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well mine will be just like yours one diurnal and one nocturnal in the same tank... well at least i see her more often lol:biggrin:
Allee Toler
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Haha. I feed GiGi in the morning, since she's a morning person, and any food or insects I put in the tank after sunset and gets eaten, I know for sure it was Lucie.
In a way, having the special needs who doesn't ever eat unless you take her out of the tank makes it so much easier on Lucie. There's no food competition, ever. Lucie snubs GiGi's food, and GiGi wouldn't know what to do with a worm if it landed in her mouth. GiGi wasn't always this bad, she used to eat butterworms, and supers. But because of her FLD, we had to take her off the only food she'd ever eat willingly. Once in a great while she's catch a cricket. And I mean, once in a great while. I spend about $10 a month of food for GiGi, Lucie only costs about $4. Lol.
It's fun when they're diurnal. You just really need to pick a schedule, and stick with it. So she doesn't become confused. Feed them both at the same time every time, and she should be fine. They normally hunt when they first wake up, which is usually when the sun finishes setting. The sun setting tells them it's time to eat. When they're diurnal, they really have no indicator when it's time to eat. You'll have to make an indicator, by feeding her the same time every day.
In a way, having the special needs who doesn't ever eat unless you take her out of the tank makes it so much easier on Lucie. There's no food competition, ever. Lucie snubs GiGi's food, and GiGi wouldn't know what to do with a worm if it landed in her mouth. GiGi wasn't always this bad, she used to eat butterworms, and supers. But because of her FLD, we had to take her off the only food she'd ever eat willingly. Once in a great while she's catch a cricket. And I mean, once in a great while. I spend about $10 a month of food for GiGi, Lucie only costs about $4. Lol.
It's fun when they're diurnal. You just really need to pick a schedule, and stick with it. So she doesn't become confused. Feed them both at the same time every time, and she should be fine. They normally hunt when they first wake up, which is usually when the sun finishes setting. The sun setting tells them it's time to eat. When they're diurnal, they really have no indicator when it's time to eat. You'll have to make an indicator, by feeding her the same time every day.
MellowMan24
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well i think yesterday was her just wasting some energy because she was up all night to and now shes sleeping so i dont think shes diurnal.
Allee Toler
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Lol. She was hyper. =] Lately GiGi and Lucie have been sleeping constantly. GiGi's totally diurnal, and she's been climbing out of her tank (what's new?) and sleeping on the window sill.
MellowMan24
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well at leased you know where she goes when she gets out lol have you tried to make a little enclosure there so you can put her there for a little while? if its a small window tape some cardboard there so she can sit there for a little while....but u might want to take it down after that way if she gets out she still goes there.
Allee Toler
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I don't worry about her. I don't recommend people to let their leos roam free, but Giovanna isn't a "gecko". She's a very slow animal. If you tape her leg to the floor, she wouldn't notice it. Not that I've done it, I'm just explaining her slow reactions. I've only been bit once, and it was recently. I tried putting a leash on her, and she didn't like it. She's never clicked, or chirped in her whole 1 1/2 years of life. She makes this... mmmm sound. She makes it for no reason sometimes, or if you're 'loving' on her she'll do it. It's loud, like a motor. She'll be watching TV with you and you'll hear her randomly mmmmm. I don't know quite how to explain her... Everyone who's come in contact with her has been astonished. She knows her name, and if you call her she walks over to you.
Now before anyone freaks out about my letting her roam free. My house is 100% gecko proof. Lol. Before i let her out, I put towels under all the doors I don't want her going under, and put up a baby gate into the kitchen that has plexi-glass attached to it. She can't walk very fast even in a full sprint, so I don't worry about her getting out. Even then, she's an albino and 'speed walks' under the couch or to the nearest dark place when I open the front door.
Many times I'll be going to the bathroom and she squeezes under the door and comes in and looks at me like "whatcha doin' mama?" and then stands on my foot.
She's truly a unique individual. I don't believe you can give human qualities to a reptile, but she is far from being just a reptile. My Lucie, I wouldn't ever dare giving her GiGi's freedom. She'd escape, or go missing in the house.
I made fabric ramps to the top of the window sill for her, and to the living room window sill. Her favorite place is laying half under the bread basket in the dining room (head in the shade of it) and her body covered in sunshine. I know that if I call her, I'll hear her mmmmm and I can easily locate her. She's a very predictable gecko.
With that being said, I'll continue to say I don't recommend letting your reptiles out to roam the house without close supervision. GiGi will always, and I mean always, be the only exception in my eyes. No one would understand unless they actually met my little retard.
Now before anyone freaks out about my letting her roam free. My house is 100% gecko proof. Lol. Before i let her out, I put towels under all the doors I don't want her going under, and put up a baby gate into the kitchen that has plexi-glass attached to it. She can't walk very fast even in a full sprint, so I don't worry about her getting out. Even then, she's an albino and 'speed walks' under the couch or to the nearest dark place when I open the front door.
Many times I'll be going to the bathroom and she squeezes under the door and comes in and looks at me like "whatcha doin' mama?" and then stands on my foot.
She's truly a unique individual. I don't believe you can give human qualities to a reptile, but she is far from being just a reptile. My Lucie, I wouldn't ever dare giving her GiGi's freedom. She'd escape, or go missing in the house.
I made fabric ramps to the top of the window sill for her, and to the living room window sill. Her favorite place is laying half under the bread basket in the dining room (head in the shade of it) and her body covered in sunshine. I know that if I call her, I'll hear her mmmmm and I can easily locate her. She's a very predictable gecko.
With that being said, I'll continue to say I don't recommend letting your reptiles out to roam the house without close supervision. GiGi will always, and I mean always, be the only exception in my eyes. No one would understand unless they actually met my little retard.
Allee Toler
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And the tank is 10 feet from the window sill. ;]
Allee Toler
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Don't force it. It's not a natural food source. If they like it, then they like it. If they turn their head, then it's a no-go. A healthier alternative would be organic chicken baby food.
MellowMan24
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having troubles eating?
ok so over the past little while i've noticed my snow has a few problems eating like when i feed her with tongs she goes after the shadow i have to put it right in front of her face so she can see that the shadow is not the food or i drop it but if i drop it she has troubles picking it up and tends to push it away. is this because she is young or should i be worried? i know she can see because she stares at me from across the room when its over supper and i haven't fed her.
ok so over the past little while i've noticed my snow has a few problems eating like when i feed her with tongs she goes after the shadow i have to put it right in front of her face so she can see that the shadow is not the food or i drop it but if i drop it she has troubles picking it up and tends to push it away. is this because she is young or should i be worried? i know she can see because she stares at me from across the room when its over supper and i haven't fed her.