HI all ok had to ring vets this morning as now there is no urates the vet who deals with reptiles is in southport today but reseptionist said she will get him to ring me sometime today , hopefully soon , ive just gave him a 92F water bath and omw he led there and didnt flip whitch was good ive waighed him and hes just slightly under his 75g but was told he needed to loose abit any ways but im going to check everyday and again if he goes to about 70g i guess ANOTHER lol trip to the vets as loosing to much i know theres defo somat wrong he keeps lieing on his hide were the heat mat is and then moves to the other side of his tank ive tryed to srynge some water into him as ive not seen him drink now either i was up till 3.30 this morning watching him with my red bulb i remeberd i had from when he was in my 2ft tank on his own when first got him and he never moved from the cooler spot so anyways im just now waiting for the vet to ring ill keep posted , and thanks to topaz and alle for all the support it means alot and i dont know how to thank you well if you were close id take ya for a meal lol but no thank you without people like you this world wouldnt be the same mwah to both