Can you play favorites in this hobby? Shhh don't tell the rest of the breeders!

[Allee Toler]

His name's Ephram (he's also my avitar), and he is by far my favorite breeder. Or, at least, going to be! Only 45g, and his girlfriends are the same size. A few more weeks before I can let him loose!

He loves his mommy and his mommy loves his paradox spot.

I have special plans for him.

And my favorite...

 

[PassPort]

what a sharp looking stud!

 

[Allee Toler]

Thanks. My favorite snow cross.

 

[CountGecko]

Beautiful leo, Hypo (or I guess super hypo in this case) snow right? Nothing wrong with having a Fav, mine happens to be a hypo snow too the one I asked about the patch on its back. I bred a SHTCT with one of my Snow albinos and next year I'm going to breed them to the male, can't wait

 

[Allee Toler]

Beautiful leo, Hypo (or I guess super hypo in this case) snow right? Nothing wrong with having a Fav, mine happens to be a hypo snow too the one I asked about the patch on its back. I bred a SHTCT with one of my Snow albinos and next year I'm going to breed them to the male, can't wait

He's actually a special secret gecko. The only thing I'm okay with relieving right now is he's a snow, and obviously a super hypo (but a RAPTOR is a super hypo too, technically). The spot on his back is a paradox marking, it wasn't there until a month or so ago. The project is called/nick named Vanilla. I'll have a new set of F1's this season, and F2's next season. I have quite a few females I don't post much about that he'll be bred with to keep the gene pool a little more varied. As the babies hatch, they'll be posted. But without cross names. I've thought this project out for months now, and acquired the perfect females for him.

 

[hyposhawn]

What is your goal in the project?

 

[Allee Toler]

My goal is to make the gecko that's in my head.

 

[CountGecko]

He's actually a special secret gecko. The only thing I'm okay with relieving right now is he's a snow, and obviously a super hypo (but a RAPTOR is a super hypo too, technically). The spot on his back is a paradox marking, it wasn't there until a month or so ago. The project is called/nick named Vanilla. I'll have a new set of F1's this season, and F2's next season. I have quite a few females I don't post much about that he'll be bred with to keep the gene pool a little more varied. As the babies hatch, they'll be posted. But without cross names. I've thought this project out for months now, and acquired the perfect females for him.

Neat. I've been thinking of crossing something into the hypo snows as well but more so into the albino form SnowGlows, far as I know it hasn't been done either.

 

[Allee Toler]

Neat. I've been thinking of crossing something into the hypo snows as well but more so into the albino form SnowGlows, far as I know it hasn't been done either.

Hypo snow glows? A snow glow is a SHTCTB Tremper Snow. As far as I understand... Or I'm not understanding what you mean.

My project will have 100% no albino what so ever. He's not het for albino. I personally don't like working with albinos. I prefer a nice stripe or eclipse with no hets.

 

[CountGecko]

Well they're 2 types, Mack snow x albino x SHT = SnowGlow and Dominant Snow x Albino x SHT = Phantom. What I meant is I'm thriving for a SnowGlow but Plan to breed some other morphs into it. Unfortunately this will take a few years so even if their ins't any thing like it... there prob will be before I'm done.

 

[Allee Toler]

If you're going to work with anything that not a lot of people are doing, I'd suggest using Ray Hines Hypo. I'm working with them, mostly, but in snows.

 

[CountGecko]

That is some of the first hypo lines right? I prob should get a Tug or Gem so I wont have to worry with the super form.

 

[Allee Toler]

Yeah, Ray Hines is the first hypo. Called Ghost now. I have a mack snow ghost het bell for a project, should be interesting to watch the babies hatch out.

 

[hyposhawn]

My goal is to make the gecko that's in my head.

If it succeeds will it be a new morph?

I think he might be a creamsicle.

 

[Allee Toler]

He's not a creamsicle. I've nicknamed him a creamsicle before just so there's something there, but even then he doesn't look like one. Only carries similar genetics, but not all the genetics.

It will be a new line/morph, If I'm successful in making what my goal is.

 

[lindsaydo]

I want a halloween mask leo They look so cool

 

[hyposhawn]

He's not a creamsicle. I've nicknamed him a creamsicle before just so there's something there, but even then he doesn't look like one. Only carries similar genetics, but not all the genetics.

It will be a new line/morph, If I'm successful in making what my goal is.

How many generations will it take?

 

[Allee Toler]

It will take me a couple years to develop the look I want. Once that happens, I have to breed them together to see if the 'combination' of colors carries over to their offspring. After a few years of getting my idea of the 'perfect' color and a steady color from parent to offspring, then I'll have officially achieved what I wanted.

So for the answer. 2-4 years of selective breeding. Then 2+ additional years of line breeding/continuing selective breeding. I'm hoping with this male I can jump 2 years if his offspring look just like him.

 

[hyposhawn]

Ohh.

 

[lindsaydo]

That is a long time, but if all works out, and knowing Allee it will, there will be a new line of leopard gecko's in a few years