Oedura castelnaui from Elizabeth

[Lunar Gecko]

I'm very happy with this little one. A friend saw how much I liked it so he got it for me at the GGA table last weekend. I'm thinking it maybe a girl but I'm not really familiar with sexing them. Its also only about 9m old. I'm not sure what age/weight they are normally sexable.

 

[perenquen]

at that age, it may be sexable already...at least mine were, when they were that old.
try to make good photo of the tail base from below.

 

[Lunar Gecko]

sorry best i could do with my camera

 

[perenquen]

seems to be female

 

[MaX06]

Wonderful gecko ! ====> In my wishlist :biggrin:

 

[PassPort]

0.1


Easily one of my favorite geckos. I'm currently keeping a 2.2 of them - 3 from Elizabeth's stock and one from Sommers stock.

 

[Lunar Gecko]

okay so you all are thinking girl, cool, but so I can sex them myself in the future besides a bulge what (if anything) am I looking for? Pores, spurs what?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Hey Sarah ~

Many thanks for sharing! Beautiful normal 9 month old Oedura castelnaui if I may say so :blushing:. Cassie's new female even has nice orange markings :blushing: :blushing:!!!

Hope you enjoy and that this one turns out female.

 

[perenquen]

okay so you all are thinking girl, cool, but so I can sex them myself in the future besides a bulge what (if anything) am I looking for? Pores, spurs what?

i am not sure if males have visible pores (never looked for them)

spurs are present in both sexes, in males they use to be a little bit larger

according to my experience, the main difference between males and females is the size and shape of the bulge: males have larger, broader bulge; females have smaller bulge (good fed females with a lot of fat in the tail may have also relative big bulge, but the shape is different - not so broad)

 

[Lunar Gecko]

Thank you.

Can anyone give me a good weight for an adult female? I'm looking for a male now but I would like to know whats a good breed-able size and age on them. My little one is 7.4g now.

 

[PassPort]

Tell you what, because I'm infinitely awesome, I'll weigh my 2 breeding pairs tonight and even post pics of vents/bulges/spurs. Wow, I'm so incredibly awesome

Seriously though, let me get you some adult weights and sexing pics.

-Kevin

 

[Lunar Gecko]

TY SO MUCH! Cant wait to see them!

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Sarah ~

My breeding female Oedura castelnaui range upwards from 15-16 gms.

 

[Lunar Gecko]

Thanx Liz. At about what age to they become sexually mature, if you recal? She sure likes her crickets and CGD. I'm not thinking it will be to long before shes ready.

 

[PassPort]

Here are the pics as promised. The first one is my yellow male and the next pic is of his vent/bulge area. The last one is of his mate.

Also, managed to get some weights and SVL's off of the little ones as well:

Oedura castelnaui
Female 1: ~3.5" SVL; 12.8g
Female 2: ~3.5" SVL; 14.7g
Male 1: ~3.25" SVL; 12.0g
Male 2: ~3.25" SVL; 12.5g

Figured I'd post up some marm weights as well while I'm at it:

Oedura marmorata
Female 1: ~4" SVL; 20.5g
Female 2: ~4" SVL; 20.9g
Male 1: ~3.75" SVL; 14.8g
Male 2: ~3.75" SVL; 14.3g

All weights are with empty stomachs, as my Oedura hadn't eaten for 4 days at the time the pictures were taken, with full stomachs or gravid you can expect as much s a 2-4g increase in adults.

 

[Lunar Gecko]

Your male is beautiful! Very very nice. I can get over his color. Thank you for the pictures, it really clears it up for me. The bulge of a female would be considered enough of a bulge in other sp. I have worked with to be male.

 

[PassPort]

That's nothing - he's not even that fired up in that pic. Besides, he's drab in comparison to one of my male marmorata.

First two pics, yellow female castelnaui from Elizabeth (the one in the picture above). Third pic is my male high yellow eastern marmorata and the last one is my male robusta thrown in for safe measure.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Kevin ~

So Curly, Moe, & Larry turned out to be a reverse trio, 2.1? Your female looks gravid right now ;-)

 

[PassPort]

No, they're a 1.2. My yellow male came from Jay Sommers, where as Larry, the kid from you, is more of a tan and orange color - very easy on the eyes.

My female was gravid in the pic, but that was from the beginning of the season, not that it's toward the end she's done laying and only about 13g. Time to beef her up before cooling!

First pic: Larry; second pic, Barry Maniyellow (yellow male) fired up.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

@ Kevin: You give your gex the coolest of names (Barry Maniyellow!) :lol: I am glad that the three Ocs you got from me were truly 1.2! The very attractive female I have who is gravid right now came from Jay.

By the way, I just weighed my 7.5-year-old, first offspring from my original Jon Boone pair which hatched on 10-22-02. A hefty male, though he does not really seem "fat" just substantial, he checked out at 29 gms!!! That's another tale about his partially regenerated tail! I also just weighed the 29 gm gecko's mom, and she weighs 15 gms. (Wish I had data like that accessible on all my Oc offspring.) I have bred nearly three dozen of them :banana:. About 15+ gms is the low end of their weight range.

@ Sarah: Nathan Hall's care sheet states re "Sexing: Males have a larger tail base than females and have a distinctly divided post-anal sac. Both males and females possess tubercles, but they are more prominent in males. They can reach sexual maturity in 6-9 months." Can I send you a copy?

I have not bred any as young as 6-9 months .