Lygodactylus and carotene

Frinta

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As the topic says, lygodactylus (or and sphaerodactyluss/gonatodes)process carotene? Or as a vitamin it needs to be retinol? And no this isn't meant to be a debate on a vitamin in general
 

Frinta

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Well, its species spesific if they can process carotene or not. If they can't process it its obviosly not useful. In what form/product you give your Lygos a-vitamin? The articles look more then familiar il check them however when im at pc
 

hexentanz

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I realized this. The majority of them can however, with a few exceptions like Chameleons.

I give my juvies Repashy Calcium Plus and my breeding adults Herpetal Complete-T. I do not have a good amount of time to go in to detail, but from what I recall the Repashy uses Beta Carotene and so does the Herpetal.
 

Embrace Calamity

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I realized this. The majority of them can however, with a few exceptions like Chameleons.

I give my juvies Repashy Calcium Plus and my breeding adults Herpetal Complete-T. I do not have a good amount of time to go in to detail, but from what I recall the Repashy uses Beta Carotene and so does the Herpetal.
I don't think any of the Repashy products use beta carotene. At least, I know my Repashy Leopard Gecko Calcium Plus doesn't (one of the reasons I recommend it to people). I believe Repashy himself actually discussed the issues with beta carotene for reptiles, if I remember correctly. But don't take my word for it - except that I know mine doesn't have it.

~Maggot
 

hexentanz

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I don't think any of the Repashy products use beta carotene. At least, I know my Repashy Leopard Gecko Calcium Plus doesn't (one of the reasons I recommend it to people). I believe Repashy himself actually discussed the issues with beta carotene for reptiles, if I remember correctly. But don't take my word for it - except that I know mine doesn't have it.

~Maggot

Looking at the back of mine it does list Beta Carotene in the ingredients. Btw there is only one Calcium Plus, it is not Leopard gecko specific, just has one used on the label.
 

Frinta

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How often you dust the animals/fruit in both cases? Saw Herpetal Complete-T atleast has both A vitamin and D2, which is a negative side.
 

hexentanz

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How often you dust the animals/fruit in both cases? Saw Herpetal Complete-T atleast has both A vitamin and D2, which is a negative side.

The juvies get the Calcium Plus 2-3 times a week depending on their age. The adults only get the Herpetal Complete-T once a week, so this is okay.
 

Embrace Calamity

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Looking at the back of mine it does list Beta Carotene in the ingredients. Btw there is only one Calcium Plus, it is not Leopard gecko specific, just has one used on the label.
leopard-gecko-calcium-plus-supplement.jpg

Good to know about the others though.

~Maggot
 

hexentanz

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leopard-gecko-calcium-plus-supplement.jpg

Good to know about the others though.

~Maggot

That is something which is sold and repackaged by another company (nice to know they chop ingredients off the label). I believe T-Rex is the name, was not aware they change the names completely. I guess this solves a lot of the confusion that it is solely for leopard geckos only. Below is the original, nothing repackaged.

****Edit - I found some interesting info - http://www.pangeareptile.com/forums/showthread.php?59613-T-Rex-vs-Repashy

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Embrace Calamity

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They may have removed/left out the beta carotene from the leopard gecko one because of the insectivores' alleged inability to do anything with it, whereas the one you posted is intended for all reptiles and amphibians. I'm pretty certain mine doesn't contain it.

~Maggot
 

hexentanz

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They may have removed/left out the beta carotene from the leopard gecko one because of the insectivores' alleged inability to do anything with it, whereas the one you posted is intended for all reptiles and amphibians. I'm pretty certain mine doesn't contain it.

~Maggot

Whether it contains it or not......apparently, going by the link I posted in the edit, the T-Rex formula is an older version of Repashy products (thank god I do not use it). From what I recall in a really really old thread someplace on another forum, Beta Carotene is not the sole source of Vit A in Repashy's Calcium Plus. If the regular Calcium Plus from Repashy himself were not safe for "Leopard Geckos" as well, I believe Allen would have another product out there for them solely and would be doing something more similar to whatever the hell T-Rex is doing, aside from confusing people in to thinking they are getting the same product.



Now back to Lygodactylus!
 

Lance Carbuncle

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Repashy contains Vitamin A (retinol) AND Beta Carotene.

From the label:

Our “All-in-One” Insect Dusting Powder provides essential vitamins, minerals and trace elements. Featuring both Retinol and Carotenoids as sources of Vitamin A.
 

Embrace Calamity

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Repashy contains Vitamin A (retinol) AND Beta Carotene.

From the label:

Our “All-in-One” Insect Dusting Powder provides essential vitamins, minerals and trace elements. Featuring both Retinol and Carotenoids as sources of Vitamin A.
Don't worry. We already figured that out. Thanks for clarification though. :)
Whether it contains it or not......apparently, going by the link I posted in the edit, the T-Rex formula is an older version of Repashy products (thank god I do not use it). From what I recall in a really really old thread someplace on another forum, Beta Carotene is not the sole source of Vit A in Repashy's Calcium Plus. If the regular Calcium Plus from Repashy himself were not safe for "Leopard Geckos" as well, I believe Allen would have another product out there for them solely and would be doing something more similar to whatever the hell T-Rex is doing, aside from confusing people in to thinking they are getting the same product.



Now back to Lygodactylus!
I don't doubt it's safe for leos. I'm sure it's just fine.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. Does this mean it's generally agreed that Lygodactylus cannot process beta carotene? I would like to know this too.

~Maggot
 

Frinta

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Im pretty certain unless someone kept Lygodactylus on carotene alone for multiple years, we cannot know for certain.


The answers i was kinda hoping for the subject were aimed on scientific data (possible research of Lygodactylus as scientific subject, not as breeding project or pets)

Overdosing or giving too little A-vitamin shows years later, it takes a very long time to show signs of hypovitaminosis.
 
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