Bloated leopard gecko with a skinny tail. Hasn't properly defecated lately. Help?

tangixanga

New member
I filled this out so that you can answer me better. Two or three weeks ago we had to buy her a new bulb and my parents bought a 100watt by accident. We didn't realize till recently and we took it out and put a 75watt (her normal heat lighting) in. Over that period, her temperatures rised to 100 and I didn't think that was okay. She didn't want to eat any worms for quiet awhile so we tried feeding her this baby food/calcium mix that we would feed them when her or the other got sick and wouldn't eat. Now she's bloated (big belly) and has a thinner tail. I can post pics if necessary. In the last 5 or 6 days since we switched the bulb she still doesn't want to eat. Her temps are between 80 and 90 now and we've tried giving lukewarm baths 5 minutes a time for 2 or 3 times a day to see if it'd help and we stopped the baby food mixture. She's pooped slightly but it's only white which I believe is normally the liquid part of her digestion.

Do you think she may be impacted?

Species of lizard: Leopard gecko
Gecko's name: Xanga
Gender: Not sure. We call Xanga a her.
Age: 3 years.
Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner): I've had her for the last three years since she was a baby. Came from petco.
Captive bred or wild caught: Captive.

Cage (type, size): 20 gallon reptile tank.
Substrate provided: Reptile carpet.
Types of hiding places provided: A open rock cave on the hotter side and cooler side cave as well.
Is there a humidity hide? location? None, we mist every now and then, more so when she's pale and shedding
Please describe any other furnishings: two medium sized rocks and a fake cactus (Not harmful or spikey).
List recent changes in the environment, if any: No new decor.

Lighting
We use UVB light that provides heat, it is in the color red and she has a newby window so she gets some natural lighting.

Heating
Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage? Yes
What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other): We have a heating lamp as described above, 75 watts and also a heating pad on the side of the warmer side of the tank.
Which hide does she/he spend most of her time? The warmer side most of the time.
Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much? Not sure... seems to stay moderately the same. around 80 or 85 ish.

Humidity
Is the humidity measured? No but my lizards tank below hers on the shelf is measure (probably off) and it's around 10% on the gage.

Diet
Insects and worms, list type: Crickets on occassion, but mostly mealworms.
Regular diet fed to the insects and worms: I buy them from the store so Im not sure.
How often do you feed your gecko? It was usually every 3 days or so. She hasn't ate lately.
Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often?
We have calcium powder and liquid calcium. I think they are both without D3 but its hard to say. It doesn't say anything on the bottles

General Health
If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs: I dont want to say sick. She's acting normally besides not wanting to eat.
Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased? Normal
Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased? Decreased
Have you noticed any of the following?
Weight (loss or gain): She's bloated but lost tail weight.
Discharge from the eyes or nose: None
Increased breathing rate or effort: I don't know how to tell. Id' say normal.
Change in the droppings: Latley haven't seen much and if there is it is white tiny droppings.
Urates
---white or yellowish: White
---size of urates as compared to size of feces: only urates. small.
Abnormal skin color or shedding: No.
Parasites on the skin or in the feces: No.
Weakness: None?

Previous problems and/or illnesses: Over a year ago she had some issues with eating. She did not get bloated though but lost lots of weight. She had thrown up her shedded skin and it started then. She recovered after a month of being baby fed and then she was back to normal. :)

Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
List other animals that are kept in the same cage: None.
Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months): She recently met my dog but there wasn't any touching between them. My dog past 2 weeks ago from old age.
Are any of your other pets ill? No.
 

Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
Much vital info is missing from above.

Please post pictures from the top down and from the underneath.

For instance, what temperatures are you providing? With what are they measured?

Temperatures for all leos regardless of size:
88-93 F (31-34 C) ground temp at warm end inside the warm dry hide
no greater than 85 F (29.5 C) air temp - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
no greater than 75 F (24.5 C) air temp - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

Leave the UTH on 24/7. Can turn off overhead heating at night.

Please thoroughly read the Leopard Gecko Caresheet linked right below \/ in my signature as you wait for our reply.
 
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Elizabeth Freer

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At 3 yo Xanga's sex is "known". A link at the beginning of the caresheet will help you determine this ;-).

What kind of other lizard have you?

A huge thing missing from the Health Questionnaire is the mention of any actual temperatures except for 80-90 F. It is super important to get an accurate digital thermometer with a probe and report the temperatures requested above. Without the proper temperatures Xanga will be unable to digest her food. Proper temperatures are vital!

I am unfamiliar with a red UVB light. Please list the brand. Is this your 75 watt bulb? Don't know how accurate it is or even the distance from the source it penetrates. Need more info.

Type of thermometer and hygrometer

It is not recommended to use UVB with any vitamin D3 supplement for leos. It's either one or the other.

Exact dimensions of your 20 gallon tank:

Need 3 hides 24/7 including the humid hide.

Why is your heating pad on the side? An UTH = under tank heater.

Need a temperature gradient across the length of the tank from warm to cool

Crickets are much better than mealworms. Feed mealworms only occasionally. Without proper temperatures, leos can get impacted with mealworms. Crickets, and many worms, need to be fed once you bring them home in order to provide a healthy body when Xanga eats them. Can you find the Cricket Guidelines on GU?

Need a vitamin powder like Zoo Med's Reptivite with vitamin D3/vitamin A acetate. Lightly dust with that 2-3x per week only. It is very important for your leo to be receiving vitamin D3 on a regular basis. Ditch the liquid calcium. Powder is best. This info is generally found right on the bottle of the supplement :).
 
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tangixanga

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At 3 yo Xanga's sex is "known". A link at the beginning of the caresheet will help you determine this ;-).

What kind of other lizard have you?

A huge thing missing from the Health Questionnaire is the mention of any actual temperatures except for 80-90 F. It is super important to get an accurate digital thermometer with a probe and report the temperatures requested above. Without the proper temperatures Xanga will be unable to digest her food. Proper temperatures are vital!

I am unfamiliar with a red UVB light. Please list the brand. Is this your 75 watt bulb? Don't know how accurate it is or even the distance from the source it penetrates. Need more info.

Type of thermometer and hygrometer

It is not recommended to use UVB with any vitamin D3 supplement for leos. It's either one or the other.

Exact dimensions of your 20 gallon tank:

Need 3 hides 24/7 including the humid hide.

Why is your heating pad on the side? An UTH = under tank heater.

Need a temperature gradient across the length of the tank from warm to cool

Crickets are much better than mealworms. Feed mealworms only occasionally. Without proper temperatures, leos can get impacted with mealworms. Crickets, and many worms, need to be fed once you bring them home in order to provide a healthy body when Xanga eats them. Can you find the Cricket Guidelines on GU?

Need a vitamin powder like Zoo Med's Reptivite with vitamin D3/vitamin A acetate. Lightly dust with that 2-3x per week only. It is very important for your leo to be receiving vitamin D3 on a regular basis. Ditch the liquid calcium. Powder is best. This info is generally found right on the bottle of the supplement :).

It's on 85 on her warmest side. Do not know what the coolest side is. The red UVB light just means the light is colored red. I didn't know if it made a difference or not so that's why I mentioned it, and yes it is my 75 watt bulb, we have been using the red ones and same watts up until recent when there was a mishap - it is Zoo Med brand though. My heating pad is on the side because my parents don't like the thought of something heated on wood... Sounds silly but I can move it to the bottom which I would like to do. I will try and get powder...
 

Elizabeth Freer

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It's on 85 on her warmest side. Do not know what the coolest side is. The red UVB light just means the light is colored red. I didn't know if it made a difference or not so that's why I mentioned it, and yes it is my 75 watt bulb, we have been using the red ones and same watts up until recent when there was a mishap - it is Zoo Med brand though. My heating pad is on the side because my parents don't like the thought of something heated on wood... Sounds silly but I can move it to the bottom which I would like to do. I will try and get powder...

I agree with your parents and also don't like the idea of the UTH stuck to wood either underneath or on the floor of the tank inside. Heat dries out wood. Dry wood and heat = potential bad news.

Can you backtrack to post #3 on this thread? Temperatures leos need are posted right there. 85 F at the warmest is too cool for leos :-(. Leos require a temperature gradient from warm to cool.

The red UVB light just means the light is colored red.

UVB means more than the color of the bulb. So it sounds as if your leo needs light dustings of a vitamin D3 containing supplement that also contains vitamin A acetate.

Please post a link to the bulb you have. I can't find it online.

Red light does make a difference and some leos find that stressful. That is why the best recommendations are for a ceramic heat emitter or Exo Terra's Night Glo Moonlight bulb.

As far as I know there is only one way to provide UVB to a leo. For instance, if your tank is small, using UVB for a leo instead of lightly dusting with a D3 containing supplement is not safe.
 
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tangixanga

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I agree with your parents and also don't like the idea of the UTH stuck to wood either underneath or on the floor of the tank inside. Heat dries out wood. Dry wood and heat = potential bad news.

Can you backtrack to post #3 on this thread? Temperatures leos need are posted right there. 85 F at the warmest is too cool for leos :-(. Leos require a temperature gradient from warm to cool.



UVB means more than the color of the bulb. So it sounds as if your leo needs light dustings of a vitamin D3 containing supplement that also contains vitamin A acetate.

Please post a link to the bulb you have. I can't find it online.

Red light does make a difference and some leos find that stressful. That is why the best recommendations are for a ceramic heat emitter or Exo Terra's Night Glo Moonlight bulb.

As far as I know there is only one way to provide UVB to a leo. For instance, if your tank is small, using UVB for a leo instead of lightly dusting with a D3 containing supplement is not safe.


Okay its 90 in her tanks warmest side now :) I cannot find the type of bulb I have online but I know it is R-Zilla brand. So if the red light is stressful for some, she has always had it... It doesn't bother my other leo but I can put in a regular light bulb of 75 if necessary. My tank is not small either. I have some pictures to put up of her belly. She's still acting normal and I have starting giving her a warm bath every two days or so, along with a a few drops of vegebtable oil. She pooped a tiny bit of white and brown but is still bloated.
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Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
Okay its 90 in her tanks warmest side now :) I cannot find the type of bulb I have online but I know it is R-Zilla brand. So if the red light is stressful for some, she has always had it... It doesn't bother my other leo but I can put in a regular light bulb of 75 if necessary. My tank is not small either. I have some pictures to put up of her belly. She's still acting normal and I have starting giving her a warm bath every two days or so, along with a a few drops of vegebtable oil. She pooped a tiny bit of white and brown but is still bloated.
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Thank you for sharing further information as well as these pictures. Seeing a vet who speciallizes in reptiles is your best bet for your leo right now. We are not vets and can only point you in the right direction. That being said, it would be very helpful for us to know how you have been supplementing her with the powdered and liquid calcium that you have. Exact brands and frequency please.

"Small" is only relative. A 30 x 12 x 12 inch tank is suggested for a single leo in order to provide adequate floor space for a proper thermal gradient as well as space for your leo to play.

Click on mod Hilde's link for ideas how to use an UTH in a melamine or wooden tank:
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...hieve-1-5-inch-thick-melamine.html#post364127
 
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tangixanga

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She does not have MBD, she has a problem with the one leg because her skin had been caught on her leg in a weird way, and I assume it cut off her circulation. All her other limbs, back and what not are completely fine. My other leo does have MBD so I know what it looks like. Unfortunately, the nearest vet to me is about 4 or more hours away... I can't get there by myself so there's not much I can do. I figured I'd get that answer but I hoped someone had suggestions or remedies. Thanks though
 

Cor8et

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Look`s like she could have got herself impacted by swallowing something, has she still not shown any faeces , is she still dropping urine ? If you turn her around can you see anything unusual, was she in beside your other gecko ?


You need to find someone to take you the 4 hour trip or find someone who will be going that way, a haulage driver,bus driver, even a courier or emergency service who might be making a trip that way just phone and ask, they can only say no bud.


Keep her hydrated and remove any substrate from the floor. Put her in some lukewarm water, just enough to cover her belly, this may help to re-leave the pain.


Sorry i`v ran out of idea`s, hope she get`s better bud
 
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