Worried about a Geckonia (Tarentola) Chazaliae

[Frinta]

For a while ive been worried about my chazaliae, pretty much only her feces right now.

For a while she pooped out a little weird looking feces, they were normal outside of the uriate part. It had a yellow part to it, the part that connected it the actual feces.

And while this is generally linked to dehydration and parasites, both are ruled out now.


Now for a while shes been pooping rarely, and today i tried to put her on a wet paper towel and she pooped right away. Again same deal, yellow part on it, but also found rock solid parts. 2 of them. One in the feces, and one in the uriate. These hard parts have been coming out constantly aswell but ive ignored them.

Shes on a mixture of different sands and cocohusk, im now removing the substrate as it seems to be the only reason i can figure out, but still doesnt explain the exceptionally large hard parts i cant even seem to break.

Any ideas? next time she poops and the poop isnt "contaminated" by the surrounding sand i can take a picture.

All the help would be largely appreciated, even ideas thrown into the air. As for backround, she also recently laid 2 eggs. (which also made me think the poop colour would be indication of breeding cycles)

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

For a while ive been worried about my chazaliae, pretty much only her feces right now.

For a while she pooped out a little weird looking feces, they were normal outside of the uriate part. It had a yellow part to it, the part that connected it the actual feces.

And while this is generally linked to dehydration and parasites, both are ruled out now.


Now for a while shes been pooping rarely, and today i tried to put her on a wet paper towel and she pooped right away. Again same deal, yellow part on it, but also found rock solid parts. 2 of them. One in the feces, and one in the uriate. These hard parts have been coming out constantly aswell but ive ignored them.

Shes on a mixture of different sands and cocohusk, im now removing the substrate as it seems to be the only reason i can figure out, but still doesnt explain the exceptionally large hard parts i cant even seem to break.

Any ideas? next time she poops and the poop isnt "contaminated" by the surrounding sand i can take a picture.

All the help would be largely appreciated, even ideas thrown into the air. As for backround, she also recently laid 2 eggs. (which also made me think the poop colour would be indication of breeding cycles)

Frinta ~

How is this gecko doing? (Sorry that it has been nearly 2 weeks with no reply to your post :-(.)

How were dehydration and parasites ruled out? Yellow urates are not a good sign at all.

Have you had the hard parts examined by a vet?

Does this gecko have a humid hide 24/7? How's the humidity in the tank in general?

Good that you removed the sand and cocohusk. Did you replace those with paper towels?

How about sharing some pictures of this gecko's belly and top down?

 

[Frinta]

Sorry for the even later respond, so it has been determined by me and several other hobbyists to be kidney stones/urid acids, i havent still in months found a way to stop it forming, and now one of the offsprings showed signs aswell. Ive been keeping humidity lower since i got the species i reckon, tried to balance it out with diet and vitamins that didnt work out, now il try higher night time humiditys. Does anyone actually know how humidity afflicts urid acid/kidney stones forming? Obviosly drinked water helps but what about the humidity aspect

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Good to hear from you.

What are you feeding these geckos? Is there some reptile vet in Romania with which you can consult?

What calcium and multivitamins are you using? Please list frequency of dosage and brand names.

Are the urates still yellow? :-(

 

[Frinta]

Yes they are, but now they also have a white part in them. I used to give Sticky tongue farms outdoor nearly every feeding and once every 2 weeks Reptivite with D3, now ive been giving calcium once a week and replacing the STF with vitamin every now and then, so notably less. The offspring get calcium twice a week (with 3 feedings a week) with sometimes being replaced by Reptivite with D3. All of the animals have optimal UVB measured with Solarmeter.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Yes they are, but now they also have a white part in them. I used to give Sticky tongue farms outdoor nearly every feeding and once every 2 weeks Reptivite with D3, now ive been giving calcium once a week and replacing the STF with vitamin every now and then, so notably less. The offspring get calcium twice a week (with 3 feedings a week) with sometimes being replaced by Reptivite with D3. All of the animals have optimal UVB measured with Solarmeter.

I see. That does sound like an improvement . Maybe more and more white urate instead of the yellow urate?

Any special reason why you had been using the STF outdoor formula rather than the STF indoor formula?

When you mention calcium above, is that plain calcium carbonate or calcium carbonate with vitamin D3?

So you are using Reptivite with D3 and maybe calcium with D3 (?) in addition to providing UVB with either a bulb or a strip fluorescent?

Since you are providing optimal UVB as measured by a Solarmeter, I am wondering whether it might be best to use Zoo Med's Reptivite without D3 and also plain calcium carbonate (without D3)?

What dimensions are their cages?

 

[Frinta]

I use mostly the outdoor becouse he has flood 35watt for basking, thats why he gets reptivite with d3 so rarely. Outdoors only minerals