Skinny and maybe sick Leopard.

[Wolferio89]

Is the Shed Aid designed to be used around eyes? NEVER used that. Maybe you could spray some Shed Aid into a glass container and then apply it around the outside of the eye using a q-tip...NOT directly on the eye's surface. How about doing that right before you place her in the humidity chamber?

It says it can't hurt the eye, but I am never too keen on using liquids near the eyes. I used it on a q-tip.

Have you been using the Reptivite with D3, the calcium carbonate with D3, or both?

Both. On 3 or 4 grasshoppers.


The humidity chamber today did it! The shed on her eye is gone. There is only some shed left on her eyelid, and between the eye and mouth. There was a lot of filth below the shed, which I carefully removed with a q-tip. It appears a healthy eye is uncovered now :biggrin:

Oh, even thought I still titled Lucky as 'she' in this post, I think it is a he. I noticed it when checking the tail. That would explain Lucky's condition, because he used to be in a terrarium with this fellow, Rex:

A pretty prominent Giant male.

Here are two pictures of Lucky's left eye.


I haven't been able to pick up the saline, but I'll try to tomorrow


Yours,
Danny

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

It says it can't hurt the eye, but I am never too keen on using liquids near the eyes. I used it on a q-tip.



Both. On 3 or 4 grasshoppers.

I would lightly dust with the Reptivite with D3 1x per week and the Repti-Calcium with D3 1x per week.


The humidity chamber today did it! The shed on her eye is gone. There is only some shed left on her eyelid, and between the eye and mouth. There was a lot of filth below the shed, which I carefully removed with a q-tip. It appears a healthy eye is uncovered now :biggrin:

Wow, :biggrin:!!! Did you use the Shed Aid too or only the humidity chamber? So you see a healthy pupil in her right eye now? Cool!

Oh, even thought I still titled Lucky as 'she' in this post, I think it is a he. I noticed it when checking the tail. That would explain Lucky's condition, because he used to be in a terrarium with this fellow, Rex:
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A pretty prominent Giant male.

Yes, Rex would explain Lucky's condition :-(.

Here are two pictures of Lucky's left eye.
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I haven't been able to pick up the saline, but I'll try to tomorrow


Yours,
Danny

I hope this makes you feel good too!!!

Have you been able to check the inside of Lucky's mouth?

 

[cricket4u]

This poor gecko is in such bad shape, so sad. I highly suggest a vet visit to have that eye and mouth examined thoroughly. You've done a good job

 

[Wolferio89]

Wow, !!! Did you use the Shed Aid too or only the humidity chamber? So you see a healthy pupil in her right eye now? Cool!

I hope this makes you feel good too!!!

Have you been able to check the inside of Lucky's mouth?

I used it before putting Lucky in the chamber. He closes his eye a lot of the time, but I think that's because it hasn't seen daylight for weeks. When he opens it, I see a good looking pupil. He also reacts when I approach him from the right side.

I have been inspecting his mouth, and I don't see anything abnormal. And I think the spots on his tail got a little lighter of color. I can even see a new tail is starting to grow now.

And yeah, this makes me feel real good I don't want think of what would have happened if I wouldn't have found him when I did.

This poor gecko is in such bad shape, so sad. I highly suggest a vet visit to have that eye and mouth examined thoroughly. You've done a good job

Thanks for the compliment Yes, he unfortunately is, but he looks a lot better then when I found him, 2 weeks ago. I have found a rep vet nearby, so I'll try to make an appointment.

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Also Elizabeth, I finally found some silkworms. I found them on an online deliverer of feeding insects. They go 30 pieces for 7 euro, that's roughly 9.12 USD.

Your's,
Danny

 

[Speckles]

This poor little gecko What a truly lucky guy to have you caring for him.

 

[cricket4u]

One of my concerns is the right eye has obvious damage at this point making him more susceptible to infection. The dark part around the mouth may just be due to shed, however opening her mouth may be too challenging for you and I'm not sure you can make out irregularities. It's a tough call when their in poor condition, therefore I live by the rule better safe than sorry. Her tail doesn't look all that great either and due to all the stress she must have suffered, there's always a chance of a lingering bacterial infection.

I would hate for you to have put so much effort and a few months down the line she suddenly takes a turn for the worst due to an infection that went undetected. Just ask and make sure the vet has some experience with leos. She's eating which is great news and things are looking good so far. She certainly looks much better than the first picture, that's for sure. keep up the good work.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Danny ~

http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...feeding-issues/68585-hornworm-guidelines.html

http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...feeding-issues/68584-silkworm-guidelines.html

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Danny ~

Do you notice the irregularity along Lucky's gumline on the right side? Compare the left side of Lucky's mouth with the right side.

Good find on the silkworms! Are you going to order some?

 

[XoVictoryXo]

owch the pictures hurt my heart. Poor babe. I dont understand how people can do this to animals! Im actually trying not to cry right now, he is missing an entire foot. I want to slap the prev owner!
Agree with a vet visit, they may be able to prescribe you antibiotics to help with eye/mouth infections and you also want to make sure he doesnt have any parasites by doing a fecal test.
However, you are doing such a great job!! I want to recommend to get him on a short period of liquid nutrients, like reptaboost, or oxbow, even though he is eating - just as a supplement due to how malnourished and dehydrated he is.
thank you for saving his life! Im so glad you found this place, it is the best place to be as a gecko owner!
Im going to pray extra hard for this little one, I hope he is a 100% success story

 

[Wolferio89]

Thanks for all the concerns and good wishes guys, I appreciate it ;-)

When I came home from work today, Lucky came walking out his hide, cause he probably knew it was dinner time :lol:. Then I noticed that the last of the shed on the right side of his head was gone! Except for his toes, he is shed-free at the moment.


I'm going to call 2 vet's tomorrow, to see who has experience with Leo's.

The dark part around the mouth may just be due to shed, however opening her mouth may be too challenging for you and I'm not sure you can make out irregularities.

I must indeed admit that I don't fully know where to look for, but for my (inexperienced) eye I didn't see anything. His mouth was open when he missed a cricket and bit the side of my finger, I was able to take a quick peek.

Just ask and make sure the vet has some experience with leos. She's eating which is great news and things are looking good so far. She certainly looks much better than the first picture, that's for sure. keep up the good work.

Will do! I'm calling 2 vets tomorrow, first thing I'll ask for is Leopard experience.

Danny ~

Do you notice the irregularity along Lucky's gumline on the right side? Compare the left side of Lucky's mouth with the right side.

I noticed before, I think it might be a scar.

Good find on the silkworms! Are you going to order some?

Yes, as soon as my salary comes in next friday, I'm going to order them along with grasshoppers and crickets. They are all cheaper there than in the shop, and since I have 8 hungry mouths to feed.. (5 leopards. a phelsuma and 2 hemidactylus')

I dont understand how people can do this to animals! Im actually trying not to cry right now, he is missing an entire foot.

That's because everyone can buy one. The previous owner didn't have a clue what he was doing.

However, you are doing such a great job!! I want to recommend to get him on a short period of liquid nutrients, like reptaboost, or oxbow, even though he is eating - just as a supplement due to how malnourished and dehydrated he is.

Will do that!

thank you for saving his life! Im so glad you found this place, it is the best place to be as a gecko owner!
Im going to pray extra hard for this little one, I hope he is a 100% success story

Thank you dear :biggrin:. I'm also glad I found this beautiful forum. From gecko-lovers, for gecko-lovers.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Danny ~

All I can say is wow, a big W-0-W!

Today's photo of his right eye is truly amazing...perhaps even miracle-like. To me his right eye is looking good like the left one. The earlier photo you posted just did an injustice to the recovered state of Lucky's right eye.

In addition, his mouth/gumline looks good.

How is Lucky's appetite now?

 

[Wolferio89]

My camera isn't really good for hd pictures. His appetite is really good. Yesterday he ate some mealworms, and 6 crickets. He took the crickets from a few centimeters away, in a straight dive, so his depth vision is quite okay I think.

I made a vet appointment today, I can go there next week wednesday. Should I print old pictures to show the vet?

 

[XoVictoryXo]

His eyes look so great!! Wow what a different a few days of proper care can make. i would say bring any information to the vet that you have. What a perfect name for him, he truly is Lucky.
Yay for the vet visit!!

Just realized I have been calling her a him this whole time. I am sorry about that Lady Lucky!

 

[Wolferio89]

It is a he. When I first took care of him, I thought it was a girl. But later on, I discovered it is a boy. So you called him right I don't know why I didn't discover it earlier. Maybe because the previous owner told me it was a female. I just believed him :/ I have been calling him wrong for several posts.

I called him Lucky in hope the name would work, and I think it did

 

[XoVictoryXo]

LOL whoops! hopefully we didnt offend him or his male ego. i am jk hahah. he is a strong fighter!

 

[cricket4u]

Why didn't you guys correct me when I mentioned the left instead of the right, which was obviously the bad eye? I'm just glad to see them both!

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

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(Here are 2 pictures)
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Why didn't you guys correct me when I mentioned the left instead of the right, which was obviously the bad eye? I'm just glad to see them both!

I noticed that. We all make mistakes now and then. No biggy. Lucky is in great hands! Both eyes were pretty bad to begin with.

 

[XoVictoryXo]

left / right; boy/girl we are all confused. :coverlaugh:
Clearly the gecko is a magician...
But I mean seriously... this is some sort of a miracle... 48 hours!!?!? I had to put the two side by side because I couldnt believe it!

 

[Wolferio89]

LOL whoops! hopefully we didnt offend him or his male ego. i am jk hahah. he is a strong fighter!

He sure is. Even when I first had him in my hand, and fed him, I noticed he was pretty quick and agile for his condition.

Why didn't you guys correct me when I mentioned the left instead of the right, which was obviously the bad eye? I'm just glad to see them both!

So am I! :biggrin:

I noticed that. We all make mistakes now and then. No biggy. Lucky is in great hands! Both eyes were pretty bad to begin with.

Thanks And yes they were. The shed must have been covering his eyes for weeks. The previous owner said he got him like that, and he says he had them for 3 weeks. (which I don't believe due to the amount of poop in the terrarium, it was burried till like 6 centimeters deep

left / right; boy/girl we are all confused. :coverlaugh:
Clearly the gecko is a magician...
But I mean seriously... this is some sort of a miracle... 48 hours!!?!? I had to put the two side by side because I couldnt believe it!
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I haven't compared these 2 pictures yet, it is indeed a big progress



I can see him getting a little better every day. He is getting a little more color now, I think he'll be a nice yellow gecko. When I first got him he was pure gray. He eats well, he poops well, and I think he also drinks well. Only have seen him doing so twice from the dish, but when his head was still covered in shed, I sometimes found shed in the dish. And when I took him in bath, he also drank from it.

I'm really looking forward to the vet visit, I want to know if he's all healthy.

I love all my geckos as much as the other, but I feel something special for this fellow.

 

[cricket4u]

The previous owner said he got him like that, and he says he had them for 3 weeks. (which I don't believe due to the amount of poop in the terrarium, it was burried till like 6 centimeters deep

Oh my, can you imagine how many times I've been lied to when all my reptiles are rescues? You would not believe the lies and stories I have heard and once I begin questioning,I catch ton of inconsistencies in their story. People have denied even what they have fed their geckos. This one person complained of their gecko not defecating and acting lethargic. Finally, the gecko had a bowel movement and the carcass of a pinky was quite apparent.:roll:

Me paranoid? No, this is what life has taught me and why I'm super suspicious! You claim to have taken the gecko to a vet, show me a receipt with the vet's name and then maybe I'll believe it(speaking in general). :biggrin: It's a disgrace.

Anyway he's come a long way and I think he'll be just fine.