Mack Snow Albino male x enigma, jungle, and RAPTOR females?

[LeopardGeckoBreederFan]

What would these outcomes be? I just got a mack snow tremper albino male and I have a RAPTOR female, an enigma female, and a jungle female

 

[LeopardGeckoBreederFan]

Bump

 

[acpart]

Figure out which traits each gecko has and whether they are dominant, recessive or co-dominant. Make a chart of what possible traits each gecko can pass on, and see how it combines with the other gecko's traits. Use the leopard gecko gecko calculator (Leopard Gecko Genetics Calculator) if you really need help. This is like the difference between looking at the map to figure out how to get somewhere vs. being driven. If you look at the map, you'll always know how to get there; if you let someone drive you, you're there but can't reproduce it. Also, think really hard before breeding the enigma. I know they look cool but unless your female is at least 2 years old and has never shown any sign of enigma syndrome, don't set yourself up for possible problems. I bought an enigma young adult a few years ago to use as a breeder who had no syndrome symptoms and after a few months, and the onset of ovulation, she started showing symptoms. Now she's in my retired breeder cage.

Aliza

 

[LeopardGeckoBreederFan]

The enigma I'm breeding is 3 years old and I see no obvious symptoms with her. I don't sit there staring at her but I've never seen her wobble, her hunting skills are excellent, she doesn't stargaze or walk in circles, or anything. So I think she's safe to breed. My other one, that I'm not breeding because she's way too small, I might not ever be able to breed. She hardly gains weight and she stargazes and walks in circles. So she probably won't be bred. And I'll be sure to do that, that does sound good for me to do. I'll get to work on that xD thank you for the suggestion!

 

[acpart]

If, after you do some work figuring this out on your own, you still have questions, the forum can then be really helpful. I think your idea about breeding the 3 year old enigma and not breeding the smaller one that's already showing signs of the syndrome is a good one.

Aliza

 

[LeopardGeckoBreederFan]

I do have a question about line bred morphs. How well are those expressed when bred to morphs like enigmas that are actually dominant and recessive? If I'm understanding all this right, line bred means that the traits are expressed when bred within the morph lines (I might not be understanding it right, so correct me if I'm wrong), so would it be present when bred outside the line or not or diluted?

 

[Dell]

First, most line breed trait are polygenic they do not have a on/off like simple recessive or dominant or co-dominant they are a result of a combined effect alleles of several genes. So what that means for you is to have that look show up in the babies both parents have to have all those gene That is why you see so many variation of line breed trait like bandits, high yellows, jungles and so on. When you out cross a line breed trait the babies will still have the line breed trait some what most of the time. Enigmas are a kind of a morph enhancement they tend to make the morph brighter and patterns crazier. But enigmas are kind of a wild card sometime they make that morph look better and sometime the babies look weird. I know that was a little long but yes it be present when bred outside the line. I hope that helped.

 

[LeopardGeckoBreederFan]

First, most line breed trait are polygenic they do not have a on/off like simple recessive or dominant or co-dominant they are a result of a combined effect alleles of several genes. So what that means for you is to have that look show up in the babies both parents have to have all those gene That is why you see so many variation of line breed trait like bandits, high yellows, jungles and so on. When you out cross a line breed trait the babies will still have the line breed trait some what most of the time. Enigmas are a kind of a morph enhancement they tend to make the morph brighter and patterns crazier. But enigmas are kind of a wild card sometime they make that morph look better and sometime the babies look weird. I know that was a little long but yes it be present when bred outside the line. I hope that helped.

A raptor is a line breed trait if I'm correct since it's a bunch of different breeds in one...so the babies of a raptor and say an albino wouldn't have very many raptor traits visible but it would still have them there. So if they were bred back to the first raptor then a new combination would be created that is similar to a raptor, but not the same because it isn't complete. Am I right? Just to make sure I have this down lol.

 

[acpart]

Raptor is a collection of traits, but only one of the traits, the tangerine color, is linebred. Most of the others are recessive: albino and eclipse. I don't think anyone is completely sure about the stripe trait, but it seems to be dominant to me. I think you're getting confused between "polygenetic' meaning that there a a lot of genes involved in producing a particular trait (like tangerine) and "many genes" meaning that there are a bunch of different dominant or recessive gene choices that combine to create a Raptor. When you breed a Raptor to anything, the offspring may inherit none, some or all of the specific traits that make up Raptor. The babies that inherit all the traits (and if the trait is recessive, the baby will have to inherit that trait from both parents) will be Raptors.

Aliza

 

[Dell]

Aliza is right raptor is a two gene animal eclipse and tremper albino. here is a list of some line bred trait aptor, baldy ,bandit ,carrot head and tail, high yellow,hypos, jungle ,lavender, melanistic, orange color, striped and reverse stripe. Some of them act like recessive or dominant but are not. But they can be pretty stable like recessive and dominant.