I believe my gecko is dying..

Completeleopard

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Maybe you should start a new thread regarding Apple.

It is not a good sign that Apple is active during the day, something is wrong.

The reason I recommend starting a new Thread is because I do not want Apples information and Porkchop information to become confused.
 

LostTogether

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Apple has always been active ever since we got her. She's just a spaz that walks all over everything.

And I'm not buying a UTH. Too expensive.

Pictures coming up:

Here's how the tank was before. (the moss is switched with paper towels now):
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Here's the tank now since you recommended for me to take out the humid box.
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And a couple pictures of Porkchop from today:
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When he was licking his medicine off:
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LostTogether

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Maybe he's just happy that there is more room in the tank. Having three hides in there makes it less roomy.

He's walking like there's no tomorrow o_o He walked back and forth to both ends of the tank.

*is secretly wanting to feed him since he seems active*
What if he actually did eat by himself?
 
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Completeleopard

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Lost Together,

Do you mean your not buying a Thermostat?

How about buying Porkchop some plants/vines so he feels more secure and covering up the sides of his tank?

There would be no harm in letting him try to eat by himself.
 

LostTogether

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I said I'm not buying a UTH. And I already have a digital thermometer.

I'll try and feed him tonight.

I think Porkchop might be too warm. H'es kinda like panting or something. He opens his mouth and sticks out his tongue, then closes his mouth again.
 

LostTogether

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It doesn't look like Porkchop's active anymore. He's sleeping once again and he doesn't want to eat. He keeps spitting out his food, but what's worrying me most is that he is "panting" or whatever. I checked the inside of his mouth to see if there was anything clogging his throat, but his throat looked pretty normal to me. His mouth also looked normal.
 

JIMI

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A UTH and thermostat are really not options, LostTogether. Porkchop will never recover without the proper temperatures and it will only deteriorate the health of your other leos. It could possibly the reason why Porkchop hasn't pooped. I understand that you and your parents have had to spend a lot on vet bills, but skipping out on these items that are vital for their health will only cause you to spend hundreds more in comparison to the $40-$50 you'd have to spend on a UTH and thermostat. Please, at least consider this.
 

Yuk

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I agree with JIMI. As much as it may be hard to hear, without a UTH and since they are already at risk of poor health, not providing what they really need could hurt them more.

Don't take this the wrong way, but if your parents won't let you take care of them, are there any rescues that might help you take care of them? I don't know how all of that works, or whether they rehabilitate pets and give them back, but maybe they could save porkchop? Just a suggestion. I've never dealt with a rescue, but I've seen them on tv where they treat sick animals for free.

There is also craigslist you could check :)
 

LostTogether

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I am not trusting some random person with my pet unless it's someone we know

And what? .. I mean gosh, we spent all of our money on vet bills. I don't have an extra $45...

And it's not vital for their health. Junior has been pooping fine without any problems. If it was vital, all of my geckos would be sick right now.
 

Completeleopard

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Lost Together,

A UTH and a Thermostat a vital for Porkchop' well being, he needs belly heat to digest his food, the trouble is, heating the floor with a lamp means the air temperatures are too hot, thus dehydrating Porkchop .

Please take into account that Porkchop was eating OK , sometimes it takes a while for husbandry error's to start causing issues.
 

Elizabeth Freer

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I said I'm not buying a UTH. And I already have a digital thermometer.

I'll try and feed him tonight.

I think Porkchop might be too warm. H'es kinda like panting or something. He opens his mouth and sticks out his tongue, then closes his mouth again.

It doesn't look like Porkchop's active anymore. He's sleeping once again and he doesn't want to eat. He keeps spitting out his food, but what's worrying me most is that he is "panting" or whatever. I checked the inside of his mouth to see if there was anything clogging his throat, but his throat looked pretty normal to me. His mouth also looked normal.

I am not trusting some random person with my pet unless it's someone we know

And what? .. I mean gosh, we spent all of our money on vet bills. I don't have an extra $45...

And it's not vital for their health. Junior has been pooping fine without any problems. If it was vital, all of my geckos would be sick right now.

Lost Together,

A UTH and a Thermostat a vital for Porkchop' well being, he needs belly heat to digest his food, the trouble is, heating the floor with a lamp means the air temperatures are too hot, thus dehydrating Porkchop.

Please take into account that Porkchop was eating OK , sometimes it takes a while for husbandry error's to start causing issues.

LostTogether ~

GU members have visited this thread wondering how Porkchop, Apple, and Junior are doing. They have shared insightful advice. Yet not only GU members. About 2 weeks ago a young friend who was visiting sat by my side one evening reading GU posts. I showed her some of your Porkchop photos. The very next morning she asked about Porkchop. So you see, we are concerned not only about Porkchop. What you change with Junior's and Apple's husbandry will help them live much longer than Porkchop.

Early on I think you mentioned that surgery was not an option for Porkchop. Was that because his gout is severe or because the surgery would be very costly?

Perhaps a rescue could help? Please google to see whether there is a herpetological society nearby that does rescues? Caring vets sometimes offer discounted services to animals in rescue care.

Leopard geckos are easy and fun to keep once their needs are met.

You are giving Porkchop much TLC. I can tell you care about him. :) How about taking a couple further steps by purchasing one Hydrofarm thermostat for each cage and one UTH? Hydrofarm thermostats cost ~$35 each via Amazon. UTHs are less. The Bean Farm sells 11 x 11 Ultratherm heat mats also via Amazon that are reusable. So you could qualify for free Amazon shipping! Can your sister help? What about asking for these things as early birthday gifts? Those two items will make your leos much more comfortable. Thermostats make controlling temperatures very easy.

If you get a couple under tank heat mats, you'll be able to lower the air temperatures for both cages.

We are concerned not only for Porkchop, but also for Junior and Apple. To have both your healthy leos live long lives will be a tribute/memorial to Porkchop. Really, LostTogether, consider the above. :)
 
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LostTogether

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No, the vet said surgery isn't necessary because it probably won't even solve his gout.

And, I come back with some worse news. Earlier was probably the happiest I've been in the past two weeks. It was so wonderful to see Porkchop finally up and moving again. I believed there was still hope for him.
I just tried to feed him some cricket guts. I stuck it in his mouth. Part of it is hanging out of his mouth, but most of it is inside his mouth. The food is just sitting there. He won't lick it up. It's been between his jaws for ten minutes now. While I was trying to give him the cricket guts, I noticed he was really scrunching up his head. My first gecko did this when she got sick, and she ended up dying the next morning. So I believe Porkchop will probably be gone in the next day or two..
 

LostTogether

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Yep, his swollen front foot is making him flip over everything. He keeps on going too close to the hides and keeping that foot stuck. That's when he tries to flip over to free it. He can barely even balance on it anymore. That broken toe is probably making it painful.
 

LostTogether

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Okay.. figured out something and now I don't think I can sleep tonight because I need to make sure that he doesn't keep flipping himself.

When he tries to move around, most of the time his back legs stop moving, and he flips on his side. Like his back legs go limp for a bit. I have to constaly keep him from flipping. His legs start moving again once I flip him back on his stomach. I'm going to put him under the log for tonight and hopefully he'll be okay.

I really do wish that he'd just stay in one spot for awhile and sleep, so I can too. Its 5 in the morning. I stayed up past 8 am for him yesterday.

I know if he stays on his back for long enough, he's just going to stop moving completely and that's the end for him. I just don't really want him to die on his back..

He looked so perfectly fine when he had his eyes open. It made him look healthy, but the sickness is in his actions.
 
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LostTogether

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Thank you all for helping me this past month.. I really appreciate all you guys help. If it wasn't for you all, I wouldn't have gotten another 3 weeks with him. You guys are amazing. Ill be sure to come back to you guys if I need help once again.

Porkchop can finally rest with no pain.

Now I feel pain for Apple..
 
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