Slow growth?

Elizabeth Freer

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How much do fecals usually cost, ballpark figure?

I got him eating waxworms, but he wont touch anything else.

Waxworms are pure fat. Can you order some hornworms?

Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...feeding-issues/68585-hornworm-guidelines.html

Thing about this is many vets will not do a fecal without checking out your leo. This makes the best sense, really. Appointments could cost $65 plus fecal charges.

Suggest finding a reptile vet and phoning them. Rates very depending where you live.
 
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Elizabeth Freer

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#66---Leo Not Eating? Troubleshoot these causes......cricket4u (July & Nov 2013)
"Leos are very greedy and normally eat right away if everything is set up properly. However, I know there are exceptions. Try switching the hides. (The Exo-Terra hide is more secure and may be the reason. If he's not utilizing the heat, chances are he may not eat.) If that does not work, lower the temp as Elizabeth suggested. You may want to cover the sides of the glass so that he will feel more secure."

"Improper temps---air temps too hot or too cold
Improper humidity---too dry is most common
Stress---too much handling---lack of hides or not enough---cagemate bullying, cage too small, et cetera......
Repetitious Diet---variety is important
Spoiled food---upset stomach or simply a bad experience (common with superworms)
Food offered at the wrong time of day---lights on
Wrong size prey---too big or too small
Improper photoperiod
Prey not recognized---leo needs moving prey to elicit feeding response
Malfunctioning heating equipment---goes unnoticed---should be checked daily
UTH is too warm---unregulated---gecko avoids the warm spot, therefore will not eat (need thermostat)
Most common of all CHEAP thermometers => false temp readings
Too much calcium causing constipation and/or loss of appetite

Parasites
Infection
Metabolic---calcium or vitamin deficiency
Impaction
Dehydration
Pain from an injury or otherwise"
 

Conched

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If you had a few mushy poos than it is likely caused by partial blockage, parasites or improper temps.

The temps you can correct and the poos would return to normal. Partial blockage could be ruled out depending on the substrates you use. If you still have mushy poos than take the animal to a vet.

Treating for parasites is not too expensive but I think time is of the essence due to the young age of your leo. What you will find is that reptiles that are young tend to go from bad to extremely bad very quickly.
 

StickyFingers

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Just got off the phone with the vet's office. Have an appt in an hour. It's gonna be expensive, but he's worth it to me :)

His tail is getting thinner, so I think it's good that he's getting seen today. I just got an order of Phoenix worms, and he normally loves them, but he wont touch those either. It's waxworms or nothing, unfortunately :(
 

StickyFingers

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Waxworms are pure fat. Can you order some hornworms?

Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...feeding-issues/68585-hornworm-guidelines.html

Thing about this is many vets will not do a fecal without checking out your leo. This makes the best sense, really. Appointments could cost $65 plus fecal charges.

Suggest finding a reptile vet and phoning them. Rates very depending where you live.

Yeah, the vet I found charges quite a bit :shock:

I would get hornworms, but he's so little, and I think even the smallest hornworms (~1.5" or so) would be too big for him :( Plus it's really hot here, and they would probably be like 4+" by the time they got to me O_O
 

StickyFingers

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Nope. No mealworms, no crickets, no Phoenix worms. He was fine eating-wise up until his last shed, which was 4 or 5 days ago. He had no trouble shedding and got all of it off without my help, which is a first, but since then he will only eat waxworms. I know waxworms are terrible, but I figure it's better than not eating at all.
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Just got off the phone with the vet's office. Have an appt in an hour. It's gonna be expensive, but he's worth it to me :)

His tail is getting thinner, so I think it's good that he's getting seen today. I just got an order of Phoenix worms, and he normally loves them, but he wont touch those either. It's waxworms or nothing, unfortunately :(

Nope. No mealworms, no crickets, no Phoenix worms. He was fine eating-wise up until his last shed, which was 4 or 5 days ago. He had no trouble shedding and got all of it off without my help, which is a first, but since then he will only eat waxworms. I know waxworms are terrible, but I figure it's better than not eating at all.

Please keep us updated after your vet appointment.

Oxbow's Carnivore Care (a powdered all-in-one supplement that is mixed with water) can be ordered off Amazon.
 
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StickyFingers

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Good vet appt. The vet seemed very knowledgeable. He agreed with me that he should be bigger than he is. He gave my little guy some dewormer, and we will repeat in 2 weeks. He said that a side effect of the dewormer is increased appetite, so hopefully that will get him eating again. He also gave me some Carnivore Care and a syringe with a catheter tip to make feeding easier. He said that the goal is to get him eating again on his own, so if he doesn't eat anything other than the CC, we have a problem. Will give some CC tonight, and re-evaluate how he's eating in the AM :) Thank you to all of you for your help, and I will keep you posted!! :D
 

StickyFingers

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Not that I know of. He told me to get him a bigger, shallower water dish so that he can soak himself to help with hydration and shedding.
 

StickyFingers

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Yep! I do that as well :) I find that he goes into his moist hide quite a bit!

This morning I fed him some more CC. Still not interested in his normal food :(
 

StickyFingers

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Gave him some more CC tonight. Just now, about an hour after the CC, he ate 4 or 5 medium sized Phoenix worms! Not sure if this is the side effect of the dewormer the vet talked about, or him getting back to his normal self, but either way I'll take it! :D
 

StickyFingers

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Just thought I'd update, as it has been a few days:

Still getting some CC every day. He is also chowing down on Phoenix worms, and on a few different occasions I have been able to get some mealworms into him, but usually not more than 3 or 4. Got him to eat 2 decently sized crickets tonight :)
 

Conched

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Make sure you follow up with the vet for the second treatment of dewormer.

Glad to hear his appetite is increasing.

If you ever have any other serious medical mishaps use a different vet. Based on the advice you were given your vet is not very familiar with leopard geckos, most aren't.

Best of luck.
 

StickyFingers

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Just wanted to quickly update everyone! He got his second dose of dewormer on Monday, and at the vet he weighed in at 13g. I just weighed him, and the scale couldn't make up its mind as to whether he weighed 15 or 16g :D So it looks like things are going well! He is back to eating like a little piggy :)
 
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