Almost Every Possible Outcome Of Neglect... Bad Husbandry Horror Story.

Nynecho

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Hi, a while back we bought a gecko for my brother ("Bullseye"). He was an adult when we got him, skinny as hell, had a regrown tail tip, was being kept on sand, but he was still doin alright.

I immediately told my brother and dad everything they needed to know about taking care of him, even though I was the primary caregiver. I had him quarantined for a while until I was sure he was parasite free and eating well, then I gave him a female to hang out with.

This guy has a strong breeding response, so I thought a female would be healthy for him. They got along great since she usually bullies other females and now had a male her size that she couldn't pick on. He would go to mate and they would do the dance, but she would never bite him back when he perused her, so he almost always lost interest and never locked on. Eventually I had to move out of my dads place, so I took the female (who eventually became egg bound but was successfully able to pass the eggs after 2 months and continued to make more fertile eggs with a different male) and I had to leave my brother's gecko behind.

I was upset cause I knew they would mess up and come crying to me for help, and now that it's happened I expected him to be perhaps healthy just a little skinnier maybe with some shed on his toes.
Well even though I had just sold all my lesser quality/petco geckos as pets, I reluctantly took in this guy again and promised to keep him.

I was horrified when I went to pick him up...

He was in a ten gallon (this gecko is almost 11 inches long) with ONE hide, a water dish, and an empty food dish, and he was on SAND. They had been feeding him only crickets... on the sand... I took him back to my hotel room before driving back down south, he had a 20 gallon with a moist hide and heat pad for the night, but first, I had to get the shed off his toes.

Instantly I noticed that nearly every toe was covered with FOUR LAYERS of unshed skin. The only toes without shed had already fallen off. He had all his toes when we first got him...

As I started peeling the easier toes off, some of his toe tips were just coming off with the shed. Imagine how long they had to have been like that for the toes to just die off like that.

I had to use my finger nails a little more to get the harder ones. They usually came off with ease, but because of the immediate release of pressure, most toes bled at this point. Out of his 20 toes, he lost most of them. He has maybe 3 claws left in total, and even after attempting to save the toes, some are going to be falling off any day now cause I was a little too late getting him. I don't even want to post pictures cause I cried just looking at them.

Throughout just cleaning his toes, he "peed" on me 4 times, and my hands were covered in blood. He did not once bite me, all he did was give me kisses throughout the whole thing.

He also had sand in his eyes, thankfully I always carry around saline eyedrops and got it out before it got infected.

He also had the worst femoral pore blockage I had ever seen. It looked like he was growing fingernails out of his pores. I used tweezers to just pull out the wax, and then gave him a warm bath to clean him. The longest piece of wax that he had building up in there was 1/4 of a centimeter long. I'm not exactly sure what caused that, but I can assure you if he had a moist hide it wouldn't have built up that bad.

Last but not least, he had mouthrot. Very mild, yet easily avoidable. He probably also had MBD, but I'm not 100% sure, he hasn't seen a proper vet.

Because of his entire diet being large crickets, his poop was huge and clearly had undigested cricket shells. I've got him on dubias and mealworms right now.

After the first night back with me, some of his toes have regained color, some are looking like they won't be staying long, and his mouthrot is healing well (it's almost gone if you can believe that) I'll be posting pictures as soon as he's well enough to be dragged out of his cage for anything other than a bath. He's in a 20 Gallon long right now.

I can just hope after all I've done for him, he heals well and knows I'm only here to help. I'm giving him warm soaks daily to help his toes, as well as putting neosporin on the bad ones, since they do hurt him even if he doesn't act like it. He's a really sturdy boy and I really wish I hadn't been forced to leave him with those people in the first place.

In the future I think I'll just keep him as a pet or leave him with my grandma to take care of. She's really grown on the geckos.
I don't think I'll ever breed him, mostly because if his poor life, but also because of his genetics. I'm pretty sure he's a Mack Snow, but it's impossible to know unless someday I choose to take in a good sized wild type female who won't mind being slightly dissatisfied in bed. It would be interesting to test breed him but he needs some time and serious r&r.

I'll post a "before" picture now so you get an idea of what he looked like before I left him, along with his female ("Pickle").
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Yuk

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What did you do for the mouth rot? I'm just curious. How does that happen and how is it prevented?
 

JIMI

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How horrible. :cry: I'm glad he's in better hands now. I really hope that his health continues to improve. There could be other issues that are not visible so he should definitely see a vet. Dehydration is another serious possibility. Good luck with everything! I hate it when family members or close friends do not care for animals properly. There are a couple of absolutely stubborn family members that come to mind.
Again good luck and great job! You're really his savior.
 
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Nynecho

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Hey guys, thanks for the support, mouth rot happens when the gecko is unable to shed properly and their mouth becomes almost stuck open at one or several points. If the gecko is unable to close its mouth, the teeth become dirty and can get infected. I was expecting to have to clean it out if it got much worse, but just giving him a bath and a moist hide seemed to do the trick! Usually it takes a while to go away, but if it's very minor I suppose it could take overnight.

Here is a picture I just snapped of him while he was out and about. Still nice and fat, but you can see his poor little toes...
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Yuk

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Ah thanks :) Just making sure I'm covering all bases for med emergencies.

He looks pretty good to me other than the toes :) They sure are hardy.
 

MizTwisted

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Awww what a cutie!! Great little face he has & his toes look much better! I remember when I got my rescue Maya, sitting there with the tweezers and a cup of water trying to gently pull the skin off, her teeny feet were swollen and blue because the skin had been on so long! I know it's not an easy job. She ended up losing a lot of them but has moved on & doing great!
Your little guy looks very happy too. Well done! :)
 

DrKMcK

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I am new to Geckos. Your story just horrified me. Why do people get geckos, or any pet, if they aren't willing to take care of them? Poor baby. My beautiful baby gecko, Myo, has everything s/he needs. The little one is so young I'm not sure if it's a boy or a girl yet. Also, too new for me to mess with just yet. I can't wait until my baby grows up. I adore the beautiful face Bullseye has. I am so very happy you were able to turn things around for him. Gorgeous smile on him. :)
 

Nynecho

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Another update: I am closing down the rescue portion of my collection to focus on my projects, so the rescues all had to find new homes. Bullseye here found a new mommy and is being shipped at the end of the month! He's 65 grams and his toes are completely healed. The girl I am sending him to is aware of his past neglect and his special needs, and she is absolutely in love with him, flaws and all. She's not going to be breeding him, so he'll have a nice big tank all to himself. She was planning on using sand, lamps, and crickets, but after taking tons of advice, she's gotten an under tank heater and will be feeding him his favorites- mealworms and super worms- as well as using paper towels instead of sand. She's also getting a bearded dragon, so he should have a buddy to take baths with (bullseye gets along great with my fiance's beardie).

He's going to have a great life ahead of him ^^
 

cricet

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I really can appreciate what you went through. I do rescue work with dogs in my neighborhood and somehow, someone heard about me and figured dog rescue = gecko... sure. So I've gotten a leo gecko that was raised on sand, only fed crickets had a HOT rock in the cage and a Under the Cage heating pad INSIDE the cage. Even I an newbe to geckos (although I try to provide a natural friendly habitate to the wild ones in my backyard) could recognize the insanity. I have a problem now though. The gecko is freeking out because I took away the sand, took about the hot rock, took away the inside the cage crazy dangerous heating pad and took away a broken hide that was a large pretend mountain that had a jagged break in it that the gecko would squeeze into and hide in. I provided safe hides and warm spots but the gecko is pooping inside one little hide she is hiding in 24/7. In other words she's freeking out. Any suggestions? I want to help her not freek her out more?
 

MistyBleil

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Are three sides of the enclosure covered with paper? The more enclosed the Leo feels, the less stressed out it will be. Other than that, leave the poor thing be. Most Leo's don't like even small changes in their environment and you did a complete overhaul. All for the health of the animal, but he doesn't understand that. Good luck with your rescue.
 

PowayRock

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jeez My male freaks sometimes when I just clean. (every weekend) Everything goes back right where it was and hell run around pissed climbing everything and pacing side to side for an hour then goes back to moist hide like nothing happened. Fist enclosure change in the beginning he stopped eating for a week and would not go into the moist hide. Agian all the same stuff just bigger cage with new (tile) substrate. After a week he was fine
 

Scarygirl

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jeez My male freaks sometimes when I just clean. (every weekend) Everything goes back right where it was and hell run around pissed climbing everything and pacing side to side for an hour then goes back to moist hide like nothing happened. Fist enclosure change in the beginning he stopped eating for a week and would not go into the moist hide. Agian all the same stuff just bigger cage with new (tile) substrate. After a week he was fine

I must be lucky. My Dany doesn't care when I clean. She always gets in the way when I remove the paper towel from her poo spot 'cause she's very curious about her surroundings. Even when we changed her environment completely, she just walked around her new tank to explore everything.
 
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