My viv pics :)

Freep

Freep

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Thought you guys might like to finally see my viv. I still want to put a drainage layer in but that will be next week and then will add the springtails and woodlouce. Also going to change the fake vines for real ones and add more real plants at the bottom :)

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And some pics of him on his favourite hang out place :D
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Tamara

Tamara

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Nice setup.., but are we realy the only ones that find the size of the enclosure a little on the small side?
We believe they should have more space.
 
Freep

Freep

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I was told on many places even on this site that a 45 x 45 x 45 would be enough for a crested gecko.??

now dont get me wrong I have hamsters that live in a 4ft cage each and gerbils that live in a huge 4.5ft x 2ft x 2ft viv so I would be rather upset to find out that the people saying dont get a viv that is too big were wrong.

I like my animals to have more room than they need and would be quite happy to get him a bigger one of course, not really sure what to do now :(

I will not upgrade to the 45 x 60 for the sake of 15cm that would make no difference to him. Now if you said to go even bigger then yes would happily do that :)
 
Tamara

Tamara

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My opinion, i would do that. 45-60 is the absolute minimum for a single animal if you ask us, and bigger would be even better.
We feel those 15 cm would make a world of difference, since they are arboreal gecko's they obviously need a vertical style tank, now if you take of the thickness of your substrate yours is even wider and deeper than it is high. Those 15 cm would give your gecko a little more climbing space, wich it would most surtenly appreciate.

They don't need a big enclosure like Phelsuma grandis or tokay's for instance, but they do need a little more space than that if you ask us.
We keep ours in pairs in 60-50-80cm enclosures and they use every last cm of it, and always sleeping in the top.

Also, some people say that they should be kept smaller because they wouldn't find their food, but we believe that is not treu.
The space they inhabit in the wild will always be much bigger than any enclosure, only thing is that you have to make sure there is enough food for them to find. It's kinda hard not finding something that's running and jumping al over the place.
And up to this day, i also still have to see the first one that was outsmarted by a cup of MRP for that matter.
;)

Oh yes, please don't feel like we try to attack you or something, its pretty clear that you want the absolute best for your gecko. :)
We just think that they need more vertical space.
 
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Freep

Freep

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I will look into a bigger one then, rather sad to have been given the wrong info from the start :(

He is still settling in at the moment so not in a huge rush to change anything untill he starts eating but will keep an eye open for one. I am not going to pay another £70 just for the extra 15cm when I could look out for an even bigger one for him :)

what brand is yours? I cant find one with those dimensions?
Also do you have pics of yours, would love to see them :)
 
Tamara

Tamara

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Ours are custom made, by some local builders or by ourselfs, so no brands.

I checked but i havent found any descent pic's of them , so i will have to make some...
To give you kind of an idea though, these are 2 of our Uroplatus enclosures, they are 50-50-100cm.

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The viv on the right was custom made, the viv on the left is actually an aquarium we converted to a terrarium ourselfs. The tank was a second hand one we got for free, and the rest of the materials, minus the lighting cost us abouth 40€.

But no need to rush things, it won't die from being in there for some time, but bigger would be better in the long run.
;)

Now if it takes too long before you see the pics of our viv's comming up, shoot us a pm to remember us please.
We forget stuff... :D
 
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Freep

Freep

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Thank you for the reply :)

Will definitely look into getting a bigger one and keep my eyes open for one cheap :D xx
 
Freep

Freep

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Got a new viv, really happy with it. It is about 49cm deep 50cm high 100cm wide.
I am not moving him into it for at least another 3 weeks and want to make a background and things for it.
I think he will enjoy having the extra room to jump about :D
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please before you say they need height rather than width, I believe he will have enough height and the extra width will give him a more interactive environment to jump through rather than just going upwards. :)
 
Tamara

Tamara

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Nice terrarium.., for a ground gecko. :|

I always keep wondering what people don't seem to understand with vertical space for arboreal species and more groundspace for species that live on the ground.

Don't want to burst your bubble here but you might believe he has enough height and don't want anybody saying otherwise, but if you ask them most experienced gecko keepers will tell you that what you believe is wrong, not to mention your gecko itself if it could talk.

Providing an animal with the right husbandry, in our opinion starts with housing it in such a way that the enclosure will alow the animal to do everything it needs to do to feel as comfortable as possible...
One of the primary things arboreal animals realy feel the need to do is climb, now you can go and ask any climber what is most important to be able to do what he does, exactly.., something HIGH to climb on.

Now please explain what makes you believe the 50cm of height would be enough for an arboreal animal that will grow to abouth half that lenght?
 
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CrestedRick

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Return that tank and just get a zoo Med or Exo terra 18-18-18 or 18-18-24. You'll have a hard time controlling humidity with those huge screens.
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Perhaps you can't return it? :-(

How handy are you, Freep? One of my buddies adapts 10 gallon horizontals into 10 gallon verticals. She removes the glass from the vertical "top" and replaces it with a 1/8" grid hardware cloth. She places a plexiglas front with a door where the top of the horizontal 10 was.

Perhaps you could replace one of the screens with a glass panel.

Then, CrestedRick and Tamara, do you think the humidity would be manageable: one screen on the side and one screen on the top? Or maybe just the one screen on the side?
 
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Tamara

Tamara

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I personaly don't see it being any different than an exo terra or zoomed tank, since they also have screen tops.
Humidity can be changed by an extra misting if it dry's out too much, or as you mentioned by covering some of the screen with glas or even plastic household foil, it's the height of the viv i find more worrying then the humidity to be honoust.
 
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