Ptenopus kochi. Everyone should have one of these in their gecko rooms!

sciteacher

New member
My male Ptenopus has been barking at me all summer long. It doesn't matter if the lights are on and I'm in the room feeding, he lets loose with his staccato call... if you haven't ever heard one, it's startlingly loud. I took a few pics of my male the other night, along with an unsexed one I picked up at Tinley. I also have a female that I'm hoping is ready to breed next season. These guys are probably the favorite species in my collection.

Male:

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Unsexed:

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acpart

Well-known member
Very cool looking gecko. With many gecko species, I like the juvie forms better than the adults, but in this case I find the adult more interesting to look at.

Aliza
 

thorrshamri

Moderator/The French Viking Moderathorr
I also have P. kochi. I suggest you keep them inside opaque tubs, these guys spend 95% of their time in the dark with constant day and night temps (no nighttime drop) and some humidity. It is indeed a very vocal and colorful species! I can hear my males calling almost every evening.
 

sciteacher

New member
I should probably explain my photo setup, as I do occasionally tend to get care suggestions based on what is seen in the pictures I post. I rarely take photos of my terrestrial geckos in their actual tanks / tubs, as the perspective is somewhat limited to an overhead shot. Hides, decor, poops, etc... also can clutter or detract from the photo. Instead, I have a modified tub I use for photo sessions with clean sand, and one "hinged" side that I can lower so that I can get my camera lens down for a more natural perspective of the animals at ground level. I rarely disturb my animals for photos, but when I do need some, I like to use this setup. I realize this can sometimes lead to assumptions that I have my geckos on the wrong substrate; too small of a tank; too sterile of an environment, etc... The geckos in question do have sections of PVC tubes, as well as small pieces of cork bark that they can burrow under. Their tubs are not opaque, but are in a rack which receives some amount of indirect lighting from the front. I do find however, that my P. kochi are not a shy species. I have many species that take cover at the first sign of light or activity in the gecko room. I find this sort of activity brings this species to the front of their tanks in anticipation of feeding. This is one of the things I enjoy about these geckos.

Herve, I do have one question about P. kochi for you. Do you observe a noticeable size difference between the sexes of this species? The male in the pictures above is obviously mature and ready for breeding. My female was quite a bit younger when I got her (not the unsexed one in the pictures above... that is now confirmed female, but is a year away from breeding size). My female is about 1/3 smaller than the male, but her rate of growth has either stopped or greatly slowed. She was a few months old when I got her, and I have had her for about a year, so she's probably somewhere between 15 - 18 months old. I haven't yet paired her up because the male is quite a bit more robust than her, but perhaps this is just a natural characteristic of this species? Or does she have some growing to do yet?
 

thorrshamri

Moderator/The French Viking Moderathorr
Mature males and females are of really similar size, I guess your female still has to grow up a bit and bulk up! You are right, only pair up animals which have reached their full adult size. They are also active critters from my experience, especially in early mornings and evenings, they just don't like to be disturbed and run under cover very quickly when I open their tubs. I too use PVC pipes as hides and a thin (1/2") layer of fine red sand. Their growth is a bit slow before reaching adult size, you have to wait a bit...I feed mine gutloaded subadult crickets, they also love much smaller prey items such as an occasional small waxmoth (once a month or so), bean weevils, firebrats...Also make sure they have a place to keep warm during the nights, above 80°F on at least one-third of the floor surface. This ensures digestion of prey items as well as a quicker growth and better health. Oh, and I always leave them a shallow water dish and spray them 1-2 times weekly with lukewarm water.
 
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