ill phelsuma grandis
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Tamara
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So sorry to hear abouth your loss. 
We also use a combo of UV lighting and a D3 vitamin supplement, however, we use the D3 vitamins only 1x in 2 weeks, the same as with our chameleons, all the other feedings they get plain calcium.
We have been doing it like this for a very long time and never experienced MBD or Hypervitaminosis D with any of our animals.
An autopsy might clear things up if you want to know what was realy wrong.
We also use a combo of UV lighting and a D3 vitamin supplement, however, we use the D3 vitamins only 1x in 2 weeks, the same as with our chameleons, all the other feedings they get plain calcium.
We have been doing it like this for a very long time and never experienced MBD or Hypervitaminosis D with any of our animals.
An autopsy might clear things up if you want to know what was realy wrong.
hi
ok so im not wrong about the D3, what I userually do is to mix baby food, now penga with D3, to make sure they eat some of it. This I do every week or two deepending on how much they eat of it.
Yeah the loss wasnt funny at all. It really haunted my dreams /; especially because I know I did anything in my power to make her recover. But I guess you cant beat death ...
ok so im not wrong about the D3, what I userually do is to mix baby food, now penga with D3, to make sure they eat some of it. This I do every week or two deepending on how much they eat of it.
Yeah the loss wasnt funny at all. It really haunted my dreams /; especially because I know I did anything in my power to make her recover. But I guess you cant beat death ...
mkschaefer
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Hello,
I am sorry for your loss. There is excellent advice and discussion here. I don't want want to repeat what my friends here are already saying, but do think balancing UVB and supplementation is difficult. In addition, feeding an invertebrate diet is important. Feeding the invertebrates well, providing a variety, and offering powdered diet or fruit once every week or two is recommended. Again, Tamara and Elizabeth (and anyone else I missed while reviewing this topic) have provided excellent information and I hope this can get figured out. That said, I was talking with a friend last night and sometimes we do not perceive what is going on, i.e. when seemingly healthy animals die. This is quite rare, but part of the experience of keeping these animals. Again, sorry for your loss.
I am sorry for your loss. There is excellent advice and discussion here. I don't want want to repeat what my friends here are already saying, but do think balancing UVB and supplementation is difficult. In addition, feeding an invertebrate diet is important. Feeding the invertebrates well, providing a variety, and offering powdered diet or fruit once every week or two is recommended. Again, Tamara and Elizabeth (and anyone else I missed while reviewing this topic) have provided excellent information and I hope this can get figured out. That said, I was talking with a friend last night and sometimes we do not perceive what is going on, i.e. when seemingly healthy animals die. This is quite rare, but part of the experience of keeping these animals. Again, sorry for your loss.
mkschaefer
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It is also a good idea to provide horizontal or slanted basking sites up near the lights. They then have more surface area for absorption. I think this was already said, though
Elizabeth Freer
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Matt ~
I totally appreciate your comments. Coming from an experienced Phelsuma person like you the feedback counts buckets! :biggrin:
Elizabeth Freer
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It is also a good idea to provide horizontal or slanted basking sites up near the lights. They then have more surface area for absorption. I think this was already said, though
zipdk ~
Did you notice this recommendation /\ by Matt Schaefer? He's a very experienced Phelsuma breeder.
yup I always give them D3 1-2 times every week, Egon is fine, but shy wasnt when I got her back then
Elizabeth Freer
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There could be a misunderstanding here. If not, forgive me. Please see below:
It is also a good idea to provide horizontal or slanted basking sites up near the lights. They then have more surface area for absorption. I think this was already said, though
Matt's comment is about the placement of the bamboo. I notice that you have vertical bamboo and one other.
Matt says that it is good to provide horizontal and slanted bamboo close to the UVB lights. Then each gecko has more skin surface area to absorb those UVB rays.
Is /\ that what you thought, zipdk?
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There could be a misunderstanding here. If not, forgive me. Please see below:
Matt's comment is about the placement of the bamboo. I notice that you have vertical bamboo and one other.
Matt says that it is good to provide horizontal and slanted bamboo close to the UVB lights. Then each gecko has more skin surface area to absorb those UVB rays.
Is /\ that what you thought, zipdk?
I understand his point :- ) but my observations is that my geckos like to hang out on the glas doors just below the UVB. There is a vercital bamboo close to the UVB too, they both are doing really good.... Giaga (the female) is doing really good, she eat like there is no tomorrow. But alright shes 6-8 months old, so she need food to grow fast =)
Elizabeth Freer
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Can you add some horizontal and slanted bamboo for climbing and basking right under the lights?
Since your Phelsuma don't have any as far as I can see, their only choice is to hang out on the vertical bamboo or the vertical glass doors. Given the chance, I'm sure they would prefer horizontal and slanted perches.
Otherwise the bulk of the UVB is only shining on their heads, not their entire bodies.
Since your Phelsuma don't have any as far as I can see, their only choice is to hang out on the vertical bamboo or the vertical glass doors. Given the chance, I'm sure they would prefer horizontal and slanted perches.
Otherwise the bulk of the UVB is only shining on their heads, not their entire bodies.