Two Deformed geckos - are they healthy?

hello.gecko

hello.gecko

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Hello,
I had recently got these two geckos from GeckoBoa, and I am a little concerned about them.
The first, was born with a small eye. Eyelids are able to open and close just fine. I am not too sure if he can see though. He does have an eye in there, but it is all black unlike the other. It also seems like he is missing that entire eye socket, as his skull caves in in that area. His jaw is also deformed. He walks around just fine, drinks water, licks up calcium, but he wont eat anything.
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The second, was born with excess skin. She has flaps of skin hanging from her thighs, and neck as well as eyelid crinkles and bubbles underneath her arms. Are these bubbles normal? They don't seem to have fluid in them, just seem like air bubbles. She also acts normal, but doesn't eat.
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I've had them for a few weeks now, and they have no interest in food at all. What can I do to get them eating? The breeder they came from feeds mealworms/superworms in a dis (from what I saw in his setup videos) and I provide food in the same way he does. Their tails are still pretty chunky, I would hate to lose these two.
 
the funky gecko

the funky gecko

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The last one looks fine to me but the first one is deformed. Are you sure there is a eye in there? A vet may be able to do something about it.
 
hmarie186

hmarie186

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The bubbles could either be from too much supplementing or obesity. She looks pretty chunky and supers and mealworms are high in fat. [MENTION=52816]kholtme[/MENTION] has a boy with bubbles that he's been working at trying to reduce. Perhaps he will weigh in with the results and some suggestions? :) I wouldn't worry about her going off food for alittle while.
 
hello.gecko

hello.gecko

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the funky gecko said:
The last one looks fine to me but the first one is deformed. Are you sure there is a eye in there? A vet may be able to do something about it.
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When I shine a light in, I can see something shining back, I think it's sensitive to light, since he will close. But I don't think he can see anything else
 
hello.gecko

hello.gecko

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hmarie186 said:
The bubbles could either be from too much supplementing or obesity. She looks pretty chunky and supers and mealworms are high in fat. [MENTION=52816]kholtme[/MENTION] has a boy with bubbles that he's been working at trying to reduce. Perhaps he will weigh in with the results and some suggestions? :) I wouldn't worry about her going off food for alittle while.
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She actually isn't that chunky. If she would let me, I could pinch her sides and pull, it's all extra skin. It's kinda bubbly, almost like there is air underneath.
Ill take the supplements out of her enclosure for now, and I'll try annother feeder. Thanks for the help!
 
kholtme

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Yeah my 1 year old male got bubbles not to long ago, although they are not as big as the bubbles on your gecko. I changed my feeding from everyday to every third day, and i only give 1 roach per feeding day. I also reduced supplementing, but i think im going to reduce that even further to multivitamins monday, calcium with d3 thursday every other week, in the off week im not going to dust. Ive read that it can take months to get these bubbles to go away, and no one exactly knows if they are calcium, fat, or protein. So im cutting all three to see if i get results. I also noticed my gecko had bubbles under his thighs on his back legs.

Your geckos look beautiful, I hope the first ones deformities dont affect its life.
 
the funky gecko

the funky gecko

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hello.gecko said:
When I shine a light in, I can see something shining back, I think it's sensitive to light, since he will close. But I don't think he can see anything else
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You know your gecko is like my new male, super sensitive. Plus his smile is lopsided but it doesn't bother me.
 
hello.gecko

hello.gecko

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kholtme said:
Yeah my 1 year old male got bubbles not to long ago, although they are not as big as the bubbles on your gecko. I changed my feeding from everyday to every third day, and i only give 1 roach per feeding day. I also reduced supplementing, but i think im going to reduce that even further to multivitamins monday, calcium with d3 thursday every other week, in the off week im not going to dust. Ive read that it can take months to get these bubbles to go away, and no one exactly knows if they are calcium, fat, or protein. So im cutting all three to see if i get results. I also noticed my gecko had bubbles under his thighs on his back legs.

Your geckos look beautiful, I hope the first ones deformities dont affect its life.
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Thank you for the help! Because she isn't eating, I can already cut the protein, I'll take out her supplement dish as well and give it once every other week. I hope it gets better, they look rather uncomfortable to walk. I think the pouches under her thighs may be bubbles as well , even down her sides. Could you possibly add photos of your gecko?
 
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acpart

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Eye deformities are, unfortunately, not that uncommon in leopard geckos. I've produced my share of geckos with mildly notched eyelids like the second one and have also produced a few leos with bug eyes or small eyes. I sell the ones that have mild deformities at a reduced rate with full disclosure and give the more severely deformed ones (who are able to grow and eat despite their deformities) to the local gecko sanctuary who adopts them out. I occasionally hear from people who have taken these geckos several years later and they're still doing well.

Aliza
 
hello.gecko

hello.gecko

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kholtme said:
this link has some photos of my gecko, I decided to add the link instead of just photos because this thread may help inform you with some background info. http://www.geckosunlimited.com/community/leopard-geckos-food-feeding-issues/78116-new-owner-need-feeding-dusting-advice.html#post443029
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I'll have to try reducing supplements then. Should I still provide water daily? Probably a silly question but you never know.
I appreciate your help, and the fact I'm not alone here makes me feel better.
 
hello.gecko

hello.gecko

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acpart said:
Eye deformities are, unfortunately, not that uncommon in leopard geckos. I've produced my share of geckos with mildly notched eyelids like the second one and have also produced a few leos with bug eyes or small eyes. I sell the ones that have mild deformities at a reduced rate with full disclosure and give the more severely deformed ones (who are able to grow and eat despite their deformities) to the local gecko sanctuary who adopts them out. I occasionally hear from people who have taken these geckos several years later and they're still doing well.

Aliza
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My very first Leo had eye crinkles and Bug eyes. Shedding those eyelids were a nightmare! I'm worried She would have the same problem, and end up having to take a trip to the vet to have it removed. I've always been drawn to special needs animals, this is probably why I have these two. But that's wonderful you give those geckos a second chance!
That makes me feel more at ease that he can love a happy life.
I may take him to the vet to have an X-ray. I think his entire eye socket is missing, and I'd be afraid of some sort of brain damage or possible brain damage if something were to fall on his head.
 
kholtme

kholtme

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Yes! always supply water! The bubbles arent harmful, but dehydration is!

I think its awesome that you are attached to the geckos that have deformities.
 
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