Enigmas?

LEOPARD1

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I bought 3 "morphs" they were all sold in 90 days. I am a devout Muslim but that has no weight on why I dislike morphs. I was talking to a friend who plays hard and loose with Genetics. He told me a breeder " created" a Leo I think the individual called it an Enigma. I was then informed that there was a horrible syndrome that also came out of this. I read more and almost vomited and although I could not find the name of the individual that bred them it was conveniently written by many enthusiasts that it was an "accident". How convenient. Who is the monster that created the morph?

I know he or she wouldn't want to be known as the " one" who caused a convenient genetic "accident".

I also dont care if all Enigmas dont have symptoms. One is enough for me.
 
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LEOPARD1

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No one created the enigma morph on purpose. Here's an article about enigmas:

Enigma Syndrome in Leopard Geckos: An Autosomal Dominant Disorder - Gecko Time - Gecko Time

Aliza

Many terrible things have not been created on purpose.

If you closely read my original post I said " I dont care if all Enigmas don't come down with the disorder" I would have correlated that with the end of the article you recommended to me and drawn the conclusion he probably already read that. Aliza, I am a closet Gecko Time reader because it is very objective and a valuable resource. I was a little disapointed with the lack of discussion regarding the Wild Type article but I am accepting of the fact people want Genetically Altered Leos.

At what cost though? The images of the by products of the Genetic Anarchy practiced on Leos is frightening.

Its just a Leopard Gecko though, who cares right?

"MOMMY! I want the one that dances in circles and shakes like Grandma".... "Honey, thats just Parkinsons".
 
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acpart

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Many terrible things have not been created on purpose.

If you closely read my original post I said " I dont care if all Enigmas don't come down with the disorder" I would have correlated that with the end of the article you recommended to me and drawn the conclusion he probably already read that. Aliza, I am a closet Gecko Time reader because it is very objective and a valuable resource. I was a little disapointed with the lack of discussion regarding the Wild Type article but I am accepting of the fact people want Genetically Altered Leos.

At what cost though? The images of the by products of the Genetic Anarchy practiced on Leos is frightening.

Its just a Leopard Gecko though, who cares right?

"MOMMY! I want the one that dances in circles and shakes like Grandma".... "Honey, thats just Parkinsons".

I actually wasn't either defending or condemning the enigma situation. I was just reacting to use of really strong words like "monster" and "vomiting" about the topic. I'm glad you enjoy Gecko Time. I enjoy putting it out, especially when there are people who want to write. Otherwise, you get "musical cages".

Aliza
 

LEOPARD1

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I actually wasn't either defending or condemning the enigma situation. I was just reacting to use of really strong words like "monster" and "vomiting" about the topic. I'm glad you enjoy Gecko Time. I enjoy putting it out, especially when there are people who want to write. Otherwise, you get "musical cages".

Aliza

I just have a hard time with the results when we may or may not push the envelope. I come from a scientific background yet other circumstances really keep me conservative on it. Aliza I know you were being objective. I tend to be passionate about certain things. I in a way look at my Leos a lot like I view my children. They are not a just a pet or something I would manipulate if there was chance something could happen to offspring. I believe someday Leo breeding will be more thought out than formulated or experimented. Right now its so easy for people to get bored and say " If I match this with this it could be cool" or " let's see what happens with these two". 15-25 years with Enigma Syndrome would be horrible. Then again I can't get into the mind of a Gecko.

As for Gecko Time. I wish more individuals would discuss the articles. The Wild Type piece had me ready to go but people didnt " jump in the mix" which is sad. As for musical chairs it was entertaining and I enjoyed it. My life is governed so strictly (my own choice) that to laugh while reading about Leos made my day. I had 2 individuals stop at my office asking " Are you ok".

Jazakallah Khair
 
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