Meet my little one!

[MissFrances]

Gunna ring the vets tomorrow and see if they have any opinions! The only thing I could find on the Internet was someone on Yahoo Answers saying "you shouldn't even feed baby food to BABIES let alone REPTILES" :')

Otherwise, it's incredibly hard to find baby food without that in. Might have to blend my own!

 

[JessJohnson87]

I would take some mealworms and put them in a blender, then add some calcium and vitamins to give it a little extra flavor and presto! Slurry....yummy....

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Can you get Oxbow's Carnivore Care or Lafeber's Emeraid for assist feeding?

It helps to continue right on this thread rather than posting a new one. That way we can easily get the big picture. Then members who've already posted or are subscribed can see updates right away without missing separate threads.

Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...health-and-diseases-/80567-poop-question.html

 

[MissFrances]

Thanks, Elizabeth! I didnt know the deal with whether I should keep bringing this one up or start a new one for a different question

I dont know if I can get those, I'll have a look and get back to you on that!

 

[JessJohnson87]

You should be able to get the carnivore care in the UK, I've seen a few people that use it over there. The poop doesn't look too bad but the picture was a little blurry.

 

[MissFrances]

It was really frustrating me, I ended up with 10 pictures of poop on my phone because my phone camera wouldn't focus! Now it's dried it looks more normal, originally the urate looked quite orange/brown but it's normal now.

I can get carnivore care! Can get Emeraid on ebay too. Is that a premade slurry?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

It was really frustrating me, I ended up with 10 pictures of poop on my phone because my phone camera wouldn't focus! Now it's dried it looks more normal, originally the urate looked quite orange/brown but it's normal now.

I can get carnivore care! Can get Emeraid on ebay too. Is that a premade slurry?

Nice! Carnivore Care is an all-in-one powder that you mix with water. I think it's better than mixing stuff on our own, because it's been professionally balanced.

I've had personal experience with Carnivore Care. It seems more available in the USA. Other GU members have used it too. Check the longevity dates.

Normal urates are pure white.

Another advantage of continuing on a "husbandry" thread such as this one is that it's a "history" of this leo. Some members like reading about a leo from the geck-go.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...health-and-diseases-/80567-poop-question.html

How's Izzy's poop now?

 

[MissFrances]

She hasn't had another yet! Again, the vets told me not to be too concerned if she doesn't poop because of what she's eating. My worry was more that she had and it looked weird. In any case, when she's well she normally poops every three days or so, so it's not abnormal she hasn't pooped again. I will update you when she does, though

I knew normal urates are white, which is why I panicked when there was a weird bit on it! There was a white part, but also a brown/orange part. When it dried out, the brown/orange part wasn't there anymore. Her urates did turn orange with the deworming treatment, so I wondered if the antibiotics might do the same?

Anyway, she is doing quite well herself. No obvious weight loss, bright open eyes. We got her out yesterday before feeding and she seemed to like having a bit of an explore! Just need to get her eating proper food again

 

[MissFrances]

Haha! Just as I wrote that, she pooped again. Normal colour and size urate. Poop itself was strange. Is wasn't wet, as such, just...squishy? Like a congealed sphere, and the exact colour of the baby food she's been eating. I suppose that makes sense, though? I'm calling the vets tomorrow (they're gunna be sick of me!) but I'm guessing if she's not eating a solid diet, she won't be pooping the same as usual anyway...?

 

[JessJohnson87]

Baby food will make the poop weird, even in human babies. I wouldn't worry too much about it, the poop should return to normal once she's given the green light to eat insects again.

 

[Zux]

Haha! Just as I wrote that, she pooped again. Normal colour and size urate. Poop itself was strange. Is wasn't wet, as such, just...squishy? Like a congealed sphere, and the exact colour of the baby food she's been eating. I suppose that makes sense, though? I'm calling the vets tomorrow (they're gunna be sick of me!) but I'm guessing if she's not eating a solid diet, she won't be pooping the same as usual anyway...?

Correct, that sounds perfectly normal to me, on a non-solid diet it wouldn't be expected for his/her excrement to contain the usual solids such as undigested chitin etc.

 

[MissFrances]

Wonderful, exactly what I thought! Thank you guys

I'm looking into getting her a bigger viv so she can do more climbing and exploring ( probably not until she's better, though - one stress at a time!) do I need to look out for anything in particular? I've seen things like this vivexotic one here but I think I read somewhere that they should have a mesh top for ventilation? Would that be ok? What do you guys have?

Edit: I'd like to put her onto slate, too. My dad's a construction worker and he's taking down some slate roofing on Monday. Would that be alright to keep her on, with proper cleaning and treatment?

 

[mecoat]

Wonderful, exactly what I thought! Thank you guys

I'm looking into getting her a bigger viv so she can do more climbing and exploring ( probably not until she's better, though - one stress at a time!) do I need to look out for anything in particular? I've seen things like this vivexotic one here but I think I read somewhere that they should have a mesh top for ventilation? Would that be ok? What do you guys have?

Edit: I'd like to put her onto slate, too. My dad's a construction worker and he's taking down some slate roofing on Monday. Would that be alright to keep her on, with proper cleaning and treatment?

Hi

That looks like a great viv (depending on size). There's usually vents in the back wall of wooden vivs, which gives ventilation, but makes heating more efficient, as the solid top allows the heat to stay in. Your heat mat will need to go inside the viv (it won't work through the wood). Mesh tops are more for when you're using a "fish tank" style.

Leos are better with a front opening viv as they're not being approached from above. You're also less likely to drop them too far if they wriggle as you try to pick them up, and less likely to drop items into the viv as you're placing them. This should make injury to your leo less likely.

I use a wooden viv, so can answer any questions you may have on that front.

I don't use slate or tile, but assuming they're properly cleaned etc. and you check the heat transfer (they're probably quite thick), I can't see why not.

 

[MissFrances]

Thanks for the information! That one's 86cm long and 37cm wide, I can get a slightly bigger one that's 115cm and same width. Have you seen the one with the wooden shelves built in? Do you think they'd be alright? (I'll get a link to show you what I mean if not!)

Apparently, slate roofing tiles are actually thinner than your average tile. I'll still test to see if it transfers heat properly, though, just to be sure!

 

[mecoat]

Sounds like a great size (mine's 93x50). The more space you can give them the happier they'll be (assuming it's properly heated, obviously).

I haven't seen one with shelves, but assuming your leo can get up and down safely, that's extra floor space for him (so all good).

I made my own viv : http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...n-vivarium-removable-floor-easy-cleaning.html loosely based on this style of viv.

Sounds good on the slate, so I'd say clean, check heat transfer and go.

 

[MissFrances]

I'm going for the bigger one! I'm guessing I'll need a fairly large heat mat? I remember loads about heating options so I'll have to look that topic up again the shelved ones are beardie vivs, apparently!

 

[mecoat]

Yes a large mat (or 2 smaller, see my thread for how I heat mine). Beardies are non-climbers, like leos, so depending on access the shelved vivs may still be suitable.

 

[JessJohnson87]

You can always use heat cable to.


that is Kyle's (kholtme) 40 breeder with heat cable snaked along the bottom. It works great for bigger vivs.

 

[MissFrances]

Ooh, that's a fab idea! I was just thinking, if I have a wooden viv I'll need to think about overheating, right? The heat mat I currently have said in very big letters that there must be air between the mat and any other surface to make sure it didn't overheat.