Swisswiss's terrarium
- Thread starter swisswiss
- Start date
JessJohnson87
New member
Hes a chunky cutie. Weighed in at 79.2 grams last night :shock:
so bad news... saw roxanne stool and it was in liquid form. now im still hoping it just stress related but im really starting to fear parasites now. She hasn't regurgitated her last feedings, which is a step forward i guess, but still, a liquid stool can be a good sign.....I havent been able to bring a sample in to the vet yet but I think im going to have to plan something..... you folks want me to fill out one of those sick form things? that way youll have all the info youll need
JessJohnson87
New member
No need to since you have most of the information in this thread and most of us probably remember temps etc. I would try to see if you can get the stool off of the substrate with a plastic spoon or something and put it in a bag, then take it in to the vet. Have you changed her feeders to something different?
JessJohnson87
New member
I don't think crickets would cause that much of a stomach upset, keep an eye on the poop after you feed her next.
Elizabeth Freer
Well-known member
Sorry to hear about Roxanne.
Try placing a piece of clean plastic where your leo usually poops. If your gecko poops somewhere else, take the poop to the vet anyway. Some poop is better than no poop!
Try placing a piece of clean plastic where your leo usually poops. If your gecko poops somewhere else, take the poop to the vet anyway. Some poop is better than no poop!
- Refrigerate this sample. Do NOT freeze it.
- Keep the sample cool enroute to the vet.
- Take this fecal sample to your vet within 24 hours of collecting...the sooner the better!
so considering she eats pretty much nothing this is what I found coming home from work yesterday....
definitely a step forward from the utter liquid stool i saw last time.... she seems still a little "wobbly" on her legs but she also seems a little more alert and reactive to her surroundings.... she moves back and forth on her own from the moist hide to the warm dry hide but this has always been the case...
she went from eating nothing for several days and then eating one or two insects, to eating a couple of insect each day or every other day, so thats good news.... she doesn't have the appetite Calypso has but (hopefully without jinxing it) seems to be making a very slow recovery....
will keep you all posted
*fingers crossed*
definitely a step forward from the utter liquid stool i saw last time.... she seems still a little "wobbly" on her legs but she also seems a little more alert and reactive to her surroundings.... she moves back and forth on her own from the moist hide to the warm dry hide but this has always been the case...
she went from eating nothing for several days and then eating one or two insects, to eating a couple of insect each day or every other day, so thats good news.... she doesn't have the appetite Calypso has but (hopefully without jinxing it) seems to be making a very slow recovery....
will keep you all posted
*fingers crossed*
Elizabeth Freer
Well-known member
OK ~
I'm wondering about Roxanne's yellowish urate. Has it ever been pure white (the better color)? That could possibly happen if she was dehydrated, but you've pictured urine too.
I'm wondering about Roxanne's yellowish urate. Has it ever been pure white (the better color)? That could possibly happen if she was dehydrated, but you've pictured urine too.
Elizabeth Freer
Well-known member
Are you lightly dusting just the insects?
I know she's still adjusting.
Yellow urates are not ideal:
- Could be staining/"bleed" over from her feces
- Might be a sign of too much vitamin D3 or multivitamins
- Other
#105---Yellow Urates: Potential Causes......January 2015
Contributed by a vet who also keeps leopard geckos:
"Urate color depends upon things like diet, health, et cetera. Generally urates are very white. More pigmented (especially green) urates can indicate an issue. It is possible that if the animal has not passed stool or urates for some time there can be a little staining of the urate portion of the waste products. I also think that this is sometimes the case if the stool is loose. Then there is a greater chance for pigments to bleed from feces to urates. If it is just little off-color I would keep an eye on it and if it is infrequent I wouldn’t worry. If we are talking dark yellow or green that's biliverdin and it implies that there is something more serious going on.
Reptiles lack an enzyme called biliverdin reductase that allows them to convert biliverdin to bilirubin (as mammals do). So their bile is green. If the liver cannot handle removing it from the bloodstream efficiently, levels can exceed the renal threshold and spill into the urates. That would result in the urates being a greenish yellow to green color. What confounds this is that there's some mixing of feces and urine/urates in the cloaca so that some fecal pigments can stain the urates a light yellow color."
Last edited:
so I noticed Roxanne was milky white last night preparing for a shed, the second since I got them (Calypso shed twice as well)...made me kinda happy since I knew it meant she would eat something last night, but wasn't sure if she was going to "keep it down" or if i would find the regurgitated skin in the terrarium this morning....
well I woke up to this.... seems better no?
also im not sure to what extent a shedding animal is a sign of "good health" or if its a completely independent factor...
well I woke up to this.... seems better no?
also im not sure to what extent a shedding animal is a sign of "good health" or if its a completely independent factor...
Last edited:
Elizabeth Freer
Well-known member
Young leos like Roxanne shed more often than older leos, because they outgrow their skins. A 100% complete shed is a sign of good health.
Feces is what you want, not regurgitated shed!
However it seems "dry" to me.
Feces is what you want, not regurgitated shed!
However it seems "dry" to me.
JessJohnson87
New member
The poo does look better. Looks like she's adjusting to the food a little better.
Elizabeth Freer
Well-known member
Young leos like Roxanne shed more often than older leos, because they outgrow their skins. A 100% complete shed is a sign of good health.
Feces is what you want, not regurgitated shed!
I'm sorry about that. You and Jess are right.
(Time for sleep.)
Taken (and made) literally moments ago....
a HUGE step forward but Liz is right i think, Urate looks a little off too....
she has plenty of hydration sources though so hopefully its just a passing phase....
you cant really tell the different between the two stools from the pics, but this new one is at least twice the size of the one on the black background....
a HUGE step forward but Liz is right i think, Urate looks a little off too....
she has plenty of hydration sources though so hopefully its just a passing phase....
you cant really tell the different between the two stools from the pics, but this new one is at least twice the size of the one on the black background....
and she happily ate three mealworms this morning.....she still weighs in at 22 Gr. but if she keeps this up (she pretty much eats every day now) she should be on the way back to recovery quickly....still keeping my fingers crossed though.
oh and yes she shed like a charm, no skin stuck anywhere
oh and yes she shed like a charm, no skin stuck anywhere
JessJohnson87
New member
Woot! Hopefully she will get back to a regular eating schedule, I think the stress of moving her to another tank could have played a part in her eating issues.