Help with substrates?

hughmungus

New member
Hello, first post on this board! My name's Drew, and I am redoing my setup for my 10-year old pair of leopard geckos (retired breeders, sort of). They are currently in an old Exo-Terra style cage from Petco (got it for $20 because the top was broken) that they have been in for the past four years. Long story short, I threw them into here after I moved 300 miles away because it was cheap, and I figured it would last until I could set up a new tank for them. Well, I'm finally getting around to setting up a new tank for them :D

Their new tank is a 20 long, I have this sitting in the garage. I would like to more away from the heating lamp that they are kept on now, I'd like to use an under tank heater if possible to maintain temperatures. This needs to be taken into account when choosing a substrate, obviously.

I will have another thread up on this forum about my setup, but here I will just ask about substrate.

I am looking for something natural, obviously. This is sort of their "Retirement home" - they are 7-3/4" and 9" by the way. I was thinking about Excavator Clay - however it appears that if it gets wet, it sticks to things. If this is the case, I can't use excavator clay because my female likes to soak herself, so I will be custom-building them a large, shallow "watering hole". I would really like to use this or something similar, because I would like there to be a background in here that they can climb as well.

Obviously a thick layer of loose sand is a bad idea, and I think that bioactive substrate isn't the right fit for me. Basically what I am wanting is something that I can custom-shape, that won't get everywhere if it gets wet, and that isn't loose in any way, shape, or form.

Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Thanks!
 

acpart

Well-known member
There has been some discussion of Lugarti's natural bedding on the forum. Do a search for "Lugarti" and see if that works for you.

Aliza
 

hughmungus

New member
I like that substrate, thanks for the recommendation! Do you know much about cleaning it? What do they mean when they say it must be changed every 2-3 months? Thanks again
 

acpart

Well-known member
I haven't gotten him to respond to that question about the cleaning. However, some places say you should be cleaning coco fiber every few months. Since I have bioactive enclosures (with live plants and scavenger bugs) I don't ever clean. I have cages that have been going for over 10 years!

Aliza
 

Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
hughmungus said:
Their new tank is a 20 long, I have this sitting in the garage. I would like to more away from the heating lamp that they are kept on now, I'd like to use an under tank heater if possible to maintain temperatures. This needs to be taken into account when choosing a substrate, obviously.

Welcome to Geckos Unlimited, Drew!

Give your leos as large a retirement home as you can. They'll love the space; there will be more room for your design! They may have more years left than you think. Last winter I heard of a retired female leo breeder in the EU who is 32 years old!

A 20 long can get cramped.

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If you stick with the 20 long, be sure to get an 11 x 17 inch UTH or use heat cables. Flukers and Ultratherm make that size. Stick the UTH underneath the enclosure with aluminum tape rolls. If your substrate is very deep you may need to stick with overhead heat.

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Here's the contact info for Lugarti:
Reptile Supply Company, Inc.
Sacramento, California
800-750-9065
info@ReptileSupplyCo.com
 
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hughmungus

New member
Thanks for the warm welcome!

I think I plan to use Lugarti's NRB for my tank, I will contact him today. It doesn't look like I can use it for a background though, so I'll have to find a suitable replacement for that. I think I'll end up using foam and grout though.

I like the idea of going with a 40 breeder, and the DPG sale comes up on the 25th, but I don't know if the 18" width will fit in the space I've provided - I will measure it today
 

hughmungus

New member
I have seen those threads, I came across them last night. I haven't seen any other reviews online, save for the video that [MENTION=52816]kholtme[/MENTION] posted. I need to watch the video, I can't watch it right this second but I'll do it some time today.

I am interested to try the stuff though. $15 for a bag isn't too terrible, he's offered people on here a free bag it seems to try so I'll tag him in here
[MENTION=58308]Lugarti[/MENTION]
 

Lugarti

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If you would like a free sample bag, please email us directly. We will need your full name and shipping address. Thanks!
 

hughmungus

New member
Thank you very much! I will try to send an email to you sometime tonight or tomorrow. I'll try it in the 20 long for now and see how well it works, afterwards if it works I will definitely do a review and purchase some more, perhaps even some for a 40 breeder :)
 

hughmungus

New member
Sorry for the long hiatus! Finals were in full effect, but they are over now and I FINALLY got to play around with my sample of Lugarti's NRB! I will be posting a review shortly in another thread.
 

Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
Sorry for the long hiatus! Finals were in full effect, but they are over now and I FINALLY got to play around with my sample of Lugarti's NRB! I will be posting a review shortly in another thread.

I hope that your finals went well.

Please link your review thread right here.
 

RachLovesNorbert

New member
Maybe try fleece. I love it with my leopard gecko. EASY clean, throw it in the washer, and it is very cozy and your leo will love it... hopefully. :D
 
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