The mysterious strange poop. URGENT

Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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RachLovesNorbert said:
Hello everyone! I just fed Norbert the other day and just realized his poop has started to look yellowish again. The same look as the first poop problem I had. I am feeding him PURE calcium and some PURE multivitamins. What should I do?
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Are we talking yellowish urates as before?

Please share the exact schedule you use every week as well as the exact brand and type of supplements.

All supplements are different. :)


PS:
What bugs and worms are you feeding Norbert? What do you feed the bugs and worms?
 
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RachLovesNorbert

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Yes, just as before. I make my own pure calcium out of boiled, baked, and ground eggshells, and I use Herptivite multivitamins. I feed Norbert every other day. On the week days I dust Hus food with pure calcium, and on the weekends I dust his food with multivitamins.

I am feeding him mealworms currently. I just ran out of crickets!!! It will be a few weeks before I can order a shipment.
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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In the beginning you mentioned this multivitamin: https://www.amazon.com/T-Rex-Leopar...1&keywords=repashy+leopard+gecko+calcium+plus

You have Rep Cal's Herptivite instead? :(

Can your mom help us out?
  • Please re-read this entire thread.
  • Share a picture of Norbert's current enclosure.
  • Are you interested in breeding Blaptica dubia roaches for Norbert? They are much easier to breed than crickets. In order for these roaches to be a healthy food for Norbert, you'll need to feed them well.

It's very important to reply to each of these:
  1. Does Norbert have a dish of fresh water at all times? If he gets dehydrated, that might cause off-color urates.
  2. Norbert's urates could be yellow-orange because of too many multivitamins, especially back-to-back. :(
  3. What exactly are you feeding the mealworms? You're breeding them. What is their bedding? The bedding is what goes in Norbert's belly.
  4. Rep-Cal's Herptivite:
    • Herptivite is an incomplete multivitamin.
    • Herptivite does not contain vitamin D3 or vitamin A acetate!
    • With NO vitamin D3, a leopard gecko can't use any calcium you give him!!!
    • Please do NOT get Rep Cal's calcium with vitamin D3! It contains 38x more D3 than does Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 and could be harmful!
  5. If you use a calcium with D3, you do NOT want D3 in the multivitamin.
  6. I would NOT feed two days of multivitamins back-to-back like you mention: Saturday and Sunday.
  7. I don't know "how pure" eggshell calcium is.
  8. I would NOT dust Norbert's mealworms 5 days per week with any calcium! That's overkill.
  9. On April 17th you mentioned that Norbert is 4.5 inches long. How long is he now from snout to tail tip (including his tail)?
  10. Have you tried to sex him lately?

In post 12 I said:
A leo produces feces, urates, and urine......Excessive supplements MIGHT be why his urates are yellow/orange.

The urates should be pure white.

Instead of dusting with your T-Rex Leopard Gecko Dust at every feeding, try dusting Norbert's prey with the T-Rex vitamins just 1x per week. See if the urates are white. If that works, then get NOW plain calcium carbonate from a health foods store. Lightly dust with NOW 1x per week as well.

/\ It's really important to try that! Too many vitamins could damage Norbert's kidneys and liver.
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In post 22 you say:
I didn't dust his food for about a week. The poop is starting to look normal again!!! Should I go back to dusting in multivitamins or pure calcium?
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Perhaps the reason his poop was "starting to look normal again" is because he was getting too many multivitamins in the past.
 
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RachLovesNorbert

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Yes, I do still own those multivitamins, but I just recently got the Herptivite.

Okay, I re-read it, and I will share a picture ASAP. I would LOVE to breed dubia roaches, is it possible for leopard geckos to eat no crickets, just dubia roaches and mealworms? How could I breed dubia roaches? Do you need heat? It will be a little tricky to heat things, since I have a plastic bin and no glass tank. I don't want to have to plug anything in to have heat, is heat tape nonelectrical?


-yes, he does have water. I do see him drinking it a lot.
- I feed him calcium on week days and multivitamins on weekends
- I feed my mealworms any vegetable or fruit scraps or leftovers my mom has available. Their bedding is oatmeal. (Raw oats)
-Is Herptivite really bad? :yikes: What would the correct supplement be?
- Okay, so don't feed calcium on weekdays, and multivitamins on weekends? I feed him every other day, so I don't give him calcium 5 days a week, only 2 or 3 times when I feed him. ;)
- I watch a YouTube channel called "Leopard Gecko" on YouTube. She is VERY VERY helpful. She has a video on how to make your own calcium powder. I follow that way to make my pure calcium. My mom buys organic, grass fed chicken eggs, so the egg shell is very healthy.
- okay, so no calcium for 5 days in a row?
- When I last measured him, the 4.5 didn't include his tail, now he is 8 inches counting his tail.
- I have tried, but I think he still might be too young.

Okay. Should I not dust his food then for a few days?


Thank you SO much for helping me out!!!!! :)
 
RachLovesNorbert

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Yes, I do still own those multivitamins, but I just recently got the Herptivite.

Okay, I re-read it, and I will share a picture ASAP. I would LOVE to breed dubia roaches, is it possible for leopard geckos to eat no crickets, just dubia roaches and mealworms? How could I breed dubia roaches? Do you need heat? It will be a little tricky to heat things, since I have a plastic bin and no glass tank. I don't want to have to plug anything in to have heat, is heat tape nonelectrical?


-yes, he does have water. I do see him drinking it a lot.
- I feed him calcium on week days and multivitamins on weekends
- I feed my mealworms any vegetable or fruit scraps or leftovers my mom has available. Their bedding is oatmeal. (Raw oats)
-Is Herptivite really bad? :yikes: What would the correct supplement be?
- Okay, so don't feed calcium on weekdays, and multivitamins on weekends? I feed him every other day, so I don't give him calcium 5 days a week, only 2 or 3 times when I feed him. ;)
- I watch a YouTube channel called "Leopard Gecko" on YouTube. She is VERY VERY helpful. She has a video on how to make your own calcium powder. I follow that way to make my pure calcium. My mom buys organic, grass fed chicken eggs, so the egg shell is very healthy.
- okay, so no calcium for 5 days in a row?
- When I last measured him, the 4.5 didn't include his tail, now he is 8 inches counting his tail.
- I have tried, but I think he still might be too young.

Okay. Should I not dust his food then for a few days?


Thank you SO much for helping me out!!!!! :)
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Is Herptivite really bad? What would the correct supplement be?
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Yes, Herptivite is poor. Please read the directions on the container. It was not made to be used alone. Even if you get some calcium with D3, Herptivite is still incomplete. :(

I would not use Herptivite at all. Go back to using Repashy's Calcium Plus. Try at 1 feeding per week. See how the urates do.

When you read these messages are you checking in by cell phone? If so, I wonder whether you can see the entire message. I know my last post was long. That's why I ask whether your mom can help with all these details.

Calcium with D3 is extremely important. Too much or too little vitamin D3 can cause a leopard gecko to get MBD (metabolic bone disease).

If Norbert is NOT getting any vitamin D3, he will get MBD! He will die from MBD!

At 8 inches total length, Norbert may be 1 yo or more.
 
RachLovesNorbert

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Okay, so I was researching on Rep-Cal's vitamins. I saw they have a calcium WITH D3 powder. Can I just get that? If I mix it with the D3 calcium, then will that be complete?
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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RachLovesNorbert said:
Okay, so I was researching on Rep-Cal's vitamins. I saw they have a calcium WITH D3 powder. Can I just get that? If I mix it with the D3 calcium, then will that be complete?
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I'm glad you are researching! On post 6 you said you have: Repashy's Leopard Gecko Calcium Plus! Let's figure out how to use that for Norbert. :)

However, you still need to read my messages completely. In post 63 I already said NOT to buy Rep Cal's calcium with D3 to combine with Herptivite. I "clearly" stated why.

Now you are researching a product I already commented on. Did you forget?

How can I help you better? That's why I still suggest your mom's help.
 
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Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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RachLovesNorbert said:
Okay. I use a laptop, so I can read all of the post. :) Okay, so feed the calcium with D3 I had BEFORE?

Is it possible to sex him yet?
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Please use a laptop all the time to read these posts. :banana:

Try sexing Norbert now. Go back to the sexing link I shared in post 7.

A steady diet of mealworms isn't very healthy. How soon can you order some crickets? Breeding roaches does require electricity, unless your home is very warm.

Are you ready to lightly dust Norbert's crickets and mealworms with Repashy's Calcium Plus? Repashy's Calcium Plus IS a multivitamin. It also contains vitamin D3. In order to determine whether too many multivitamins cause Norbert's yellow-orange urates, follow my directions exactly. Otherwise I can't help you sort this out.
 
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Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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RachLovesNorbert said:
Okay. :) Can I share a picture for him/her backside so that you could help me out with sexing him?
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Yes, go for it. Take the best picture you can of Norbert's vent.

No more, no less:
Sunday: Lightly dust all mealworms with Repashy's Calcium Plus (multivitamins)
Wednesday: Lightly dust all mealworms with plain egg shell calcium
Friday: Feed but do NOT dust with anything

Take a picture of the next poop after the Friday feeding, then post it here.
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Elizabeth Freer said:
Yes, go for it. Take the best picture you can of Norbert's vent.

No more, no less:
Sunday: Lightly dust all mealworms with Repashy's Calcium Plus (multivitamins)
Wednesday: Lightly dust all mealworms with plain egg shell calcium
Friday: Feed but do NOT dust with anything

Take a picture of the next poop after the Friday feeding, then post it here.
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RachLovesNorbert said:
His poop is starting to look normal now! :) Should I keep this schedule and continue that way?
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Yes, keep to this schedule.

We've talked about lots of things. Please share exactly how you've been dusting Norbert's food now. I'd like to be certain for Norbert's good health. :)
 
RachLovesNorbert

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Hello! Norbert is not eating. AGAIN. I don't know what to do! I have to take him to the beach with me for a week, and I want him to eat there. Any suggestions on what to do? It has been about a week he isn't eating, and I don't have any vet money! What should I do?
 
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