adamrutter0
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should the sand dry out it is quite damp
i changed the leo life sand in my leo viv and now the humidity is at 99
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As the sand dries the humidity should go down. As you have probably heard, sand is not a good idea, and neither is wet sand. It doesn't represent their native habitat and is too easy to eat and get impacted. If you really want a particle substrate, consider excavator clay or coco fiber. My favorite is ceramic tile.
Aliza
Aliza
Elizabeth Freer
Well-known member
Is this your product? Perhaps you just got it excessively wet?
The description states:
"ProRep Leo Life is part of the species specific life series of substrates and has been designed to meet the needs of Leopard Geckos and other desert species.
"In the wild there are few species that actually live on pure sand and so Leo Life has been designed to mimic the sandy soil more typical of desert habitats. Leo Life contains a mixture of sand and soil to create a realistic looking and feeling substrate which encourages natural behaviour, such as digging and foraging, and aids the maintenance of a suitable environment. The addition of soil to the mixture reduces the risk of impaction sometimes seen with pure sand, while enhancing the moisture retention ability of the substrate.
"Desert species of reptile in the wild will naturally spend time in areas of relatively high humidity, such as under rocks or down burrows, which aids with hydration and shedding. Leo Life has been designed to allow keepers to reproduce this. When sprayed water is absorbed into the substrate and slowly released. By spraying under hides, or in specific areas it is possible to create local areas of humidity which the animals can use as they need. They may choose to spend the day or night in a humid area, rest there when shedding or simply dig in the damp areas to gain extra humidity.
"Leo Life is suitable for Leopard Geckos and many other reptiles from arid environments."
The description states:
"ProRep Leo Life is part of the species specific life series of substrates and has been designed to meet the needs of Leopard Geckos and other desert species.
"In the wild there are few species that actually live on pure sand and so Leo Life has been designed to mimic the sandy soil more typical of desert habitats. Leo Life contains a mixture of sand and soil to create a realistic looking and feeling substrate which encourages natural behaviour, such as digging and foraging, and aids the maintenance of a suitable environment. The addition of soil to the mixture reduces the risk of impaction sometimes seen with pure sand, while enhancing the moisture retention ability of the substrate.
"Desert species of reptile in the wild will naturally spend time in areas of relatively high humidity, such as under rocks or down burrows, which aids with hydration and shedding. Leo Life has been designed to allow keepers to reproduce this. When sprayed water is absorbed into the substrate and slowly released. By spraying under hides, or in specific areas it is possible to create local areas of humidity which the animals can use as they need. They may choose to spend the day or night in a humid area, rest there when shedding or simply dig in the damp areas to gain extra humidity.
"Leo Life is suitable for Leopard Geckos and many other reptiles from arid environments."
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cz my substrate is zeolite. here's the picture. i use tile but not covered all the gecko floor. so i use zeolite for remaining floor.
Thank You..
IHaveNoIdea
New member
Zeolite is like perlite, I would not put that crap in any leo terarrium (nor the "Leo life" which looks like normal sand). You seriously seem like you have no idea what you are doing. You are risking impaction here, big time.
I have done some internet research into diatomaceous earth and zeolite and I still don't feel that I have enough information to know whether they are safe for leopard geckos or not. I can't tell from the internet the size of the zeolite grains (if they are truly the size of perlite then they are probably not safe), but I did find that there are many kinds of zeolite. I would love to have someone familiar with both discuss this (and love even more for someone to write an article for Gecko Time about it).
I do feel in general, that there are ways of telling a person that you think they may not be well informed about gecko care and that on forums the more polite ways of doing that are really important to use.
Aliza
I do feel in general, that there are ways of telling a person that you think they may not be well informed about gecko care and that on forums the more polite ways of doing that are really important to use.
Aliza
Hmm thank you sir. Well noted ������
The zeolite just like milk powder, but i dont feel it's like sand tough, or perlite perhaps. But still i don't know wether the zeolite and perlite are the same substance. But if the size, it's clearly zeolite more soft and smaller than perlite i have (usually my perlite kust for substrate of laying egg container).
I used zeolite since 2009, and since than i dont have any sick gecko like impaction, crypto or anything. So thats why, i want to make my tank beautifull and i want to upgrade where my gaps, the best for leo, read alot in here, ask the link ans of course while i saving my money to do so. ����������
IHaveNoIdea
New member
Zeolite contains calcium, leo's slight defficiency in calcium will end up eating the zeolite. Looking at the picture, the floor is totally covered with it. I would expect a bit more research and thinking generally from someone who is keeping leopard geckos for almost 10 years..
yes yes. so i'm here with many question, to fill the gaps. because almost this time, i never have any problem. but it doesn't mean what i have been trough are 100% good, right? so i need this kind information, why in here no one have used the zeolite. Maybe someone have problem (Like used zeolite as substrate and the leo's got impaction) and could share in here.
thank you sir for the feedback.
i'm looking forward for this information.
Thanks Aliza. :blushing::blushing::blushing::blushing::blushing::blushing:
Please try sticking to constructive criticism, the rudeness isn't necessary. There are nicer ways to give advice. Keep it friendly, careful of the words you use, or don't reply at all.
Riverside Reptiles
Administrator (HMFIC)
I use gumballs. They look cute and they are too big for the leos to swallow. Plus, the bonus is that I always have gumballs around when I want one
Yuck!:lol:
Aliza
(this may be the first and hopefully the last time I'll use an emoji in a post but I wanted to make sure you knew I was kidding)