Emaciated Gold Dust Help Needed

[Fallingspeaker]

Well so he didn’t eat any crickets this morning. He let 4 of them walk right past him and into my house... sigh...

He also didn’t eat any smoothie. It’s possible he woke up even earlier than me and ate before the sun came up.

He made a little poop today. It was semi soft but after drying ended up looking like a gecko poop with a little white end.

It’s hard because I want to see him stuff his face every day.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

This morning he wouldn't eat any crickets. I'm not sure he ate any of his smoothies. But he did make a wet poop. After it dried it looked like a little gecko poop with a white tip.

I came home in the afternoon and found him in a new area. He has now started to shed. Does shedding halt gecko's eating for a day or two?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

What about the 12x12x18? Would that work with a 25w bulb? Any recommendations for a 10 gallon one good for his rehab? If I pursue a glass aquarium do you have recommendations for screen tops?

Thank you so much again for the help

You're welcome, John!

Liz, his name is Midori-Chan because he’s green. I went surfing after he switched hides this morning and when I came back he had walked the 20ft to get back to his favorite basking spot, the one where we caught the intruder two days ago. I made a small zoo med watery diet, with some juicy papaya and he had 825 licks. So at least I know he’s hydrated and has some of the nutrients front the fruit and mix.

Plus now he’s in a much Warmer spot and easier place to feed and catch if need be.

This morning he wouldn't eat any crickets. I'm not sure he ate any of his smoothies. But he did make a wet poop. After it dried it looked like a little gecko poop with a white tip.

I came home in the afternoon and found him in a new area. He has now started to shed. Does shedding halt gecko's eating for a day or two?

Midori-Chan -- What a pretty name!

Now's the time to be particularly alert. Shedding can easily halt a gecko's appetite for a day or two. I hope the humidity in your home = an easy shed for Midori-Chan!!!

The tip of the poop = urates.

If you buy any Exo Terra, the top = a fine aluminum mesh.

Most any 10 gallon glass aquarium will work for Midori-Chan's rehab. 10 gallons have 20 inch x 10 inch (200 square inches) footprints. That's significantly greater than a 12 x 12 (= 144 square inches) floor!

1. 10 gallons = 20 x 10 x 11 inches high
2. Purchase a separate screen that is black mesh. One can spray directly through black mesh screen. If one sprays directly through any aluminum mesh screen top, it will rust.
3. Purchase a shallow 8.5 inch dome for the 25 watt bulb. This 8.5 inch dome is wired with an inline dimmer.
   
4. Heat with 25 watt incandescent bulb.
5. If the 25 watt is too strong, a simple rheostat (dimmer) can be purchased from a hardware store if the dimmer is not part of the dome fixture.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

It's been between 70% to 90% the past few days. 60% the next couple.

I really wished he would have eaten a few more days worth of food before shedding. Is shedding just normal even if he's in weak health or does it mean he's gotten more energy? No idea...

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

It's been between 70% to 90% the past few days. 60% the next couple.

I really wished he would have eaten a few more days worth of food before shedding. Is shedding just normal even if he's in weak health or does it mean he's gotten more energy? No idea...

Shedding is normal. When a gecko is growing, he sheds more frequently than when he's an adult. Geckos shed their former skin from time to time even if they aren't growing.

I'm certain he's appreciates his papaya + Zoo Med slurries as well as his wee crickets.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

We have some fresh mango waiting to ripen up. I'm hoping he'll like that too. Ordered a couple flavors of Pangea mix too.

He probably wasn't interested in crickets since today was shed day. But i'm worried it's because they were dusted with calcium and he doesn't recognize frosted breakfast. Will have to get more creative.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

We have some fresh mango waiting to ripen up. I'm hoping he'll like that too. Ordered a couple flavors of Pangea mix too.

He probably wasn't interested in crickets since today was shed day. But i'm worried it's because they were dusted with calcium and he doesn't recognize frosted breakfast. Will have to get more creative.

"Hey there, buddy Midori-Chan: 'Frosted Flakes' are on the menu today."

I hope his shed goes well.

I'm a little concerned, because you report his back legs don't work normally. A total shed may be a measure of his healing.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

Yeah I’ve been reading up on it and now I’m getting a little more worried too. He did not eat yesterday or today but did drink a lot of water both days. He still has most of his shed on, but it is much more broken up. His legs look like I need to monitor closely. He’s walking funny right now because he’s wearing gloves and boots.

I stated that his legs don’t work normally because he lifts them high when he walks slowly. But when he is determined to get somewhere or skitters in a hurry, he looks normal.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

Also on some of the recent photos I’ve noticed his mouth is black around the edges. I started looking it up. Is this something called mouth rot? Is it treatable?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Yeah I’ve been reading up on it and now I’m getting a little more worried too. He did not eat yesterday or today but did drink a lot of water both days. He still has most of his shed on, but it is much more broken up. His legs look like I need to monitor closely. He’s walking funny right now because he’s wearing gloves and boots.

I stated that his legs don’t work normally because he lifts them high when he walks slowly. But when he is determined to get somewhere or skitters in a hurry, he looks normal.

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From what I see, Midori-Chan needs human assistance. You're the dad, John. You can do this.

I'm happy he's staying hydrated.

DO THIS ASAP!

Please prepare a plastic food storage container. Poke holes in the lid so he can breathe. Place wet paper towels on the bottom. Squeeze out more paper towels. Bunch those up. Place them inside too. Spray the sides and lid of the container. Place a rough rock inside that he can rub up against. Place him inside for 2 hours. See how much shed + gloves + boots he can remove on his own.

If he can't remove them, please step in to help.

Things you can use gently. Start with his gloves and boots.

1. tweezers
2. toothpicks
3. q-tips

Ease a toothpick/tweezers between the old skin and the new. Pry and lift the old skin away.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Also on some of the recent photos I’ve noticed his mouth is black around the edges. I started looking it up. Is this something called mouth rot? Is it treatable?

How does the inside of his mouth look? I can't see those details from your pictures. Can you enlarge the pictures before you post them?

Mouth rot (infectious stomatitis) is treatable.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

How does the inside of his mouth look? I can't see those details from your pictures. Can you enlarge the pictures before you post them?

Mouth rot (infectious stomatitis) is treatable.

I will have to wait to get home from work and use my computer. My phone is all I have right now.

His mouth is a fairly recent development. Maybe a week? How do I treat stomatitis?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I will have to wait to get home from work and use my computer. My phone is all I have right now.

His mouth is a fairly recent development. Maybe a week? How do I treat stomatitis?

I'm sorry. I don't know home remedies for mouth rot.

Can you see the other post right before this one about prepping a shedding container and what you'll need?

I only have a computer. I don't know whether you can scroll back on a cell phone???

 

[Fallingspeaker]

My wife is at home and made a moist box and got rocks and a round brush with coarse bristles. He seemed interested in the box. If he goes inside we’ll close it up and keep him in there and I’ll work on the terrarium today. With so many issues compiling I guess it’s time to take direct control over everything

EDIT: his mouth is lined with black and it looks like it props it open a bit. I thought this was dust and debris caught on his mouth earlier since I saw a small spider web dangling that came off. But now with better pictures it looks like bacteria.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

My wife is at home and made a moist box and got rocks and a round brush with coarse bristles. He seemed interested in the box. If he goes inside we’ll close it up and keep him in there and I’ll work on the terrarium today.With so many issues compiling I guess it’s time to take direct control over everything

EDIT: his mouth is lined with black and it looks like it props it open a bit. I thought this was dust and debris caught on his mouth earlier since I saw a small spider web dangling that came off. But now with better pictures it looks like bacteria.

Thank goodness for wives!

If he doesn't go inside on his own, I'd catch him and place him inside.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

He walked into the moist box and she closed the door. Did just like you said, lots of moist paper towels, various rocks, etc.

I will have her check on him in a couple hours to see how it’s going.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

He walked into the moist box and she closed the door. Did just like you said, lots of moist paper towels, various rocks, etc.

I will have her check on him in a couple hours to see how it’s going.

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May I ask what type of box this is? Cardboard? If so, plastic will work better. I'd be concerned about cardboard soaking up both moisture and humidity.

 

[Fallingspeaker]

I am struggling trying to get his shed off. He runs and stresses out as soon as I try. Any tips? This is stressful

 

[Fallingspeaker]

Ok never mind. I was able to get it all off. Once I picked him up he played dead. Tried my hardest not to hurt his little hands but he just played limp and I thought I would pull his arm out. Finally got it all off. Then when I tried to put him back down he started running up my arm. Finally got him into a bigger box. He’s climbing again and making it real hard to keep him in.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Ok never mind. I was able to get it all off. Once I picked him up he played dead. Tried my hardest not to hurt his little hands but he just played limp and I thought I would pull his arm out. Finally got it all off. Then when I tried to put him back down he started running up my arm. Finally got him into a bigger box. He’s climbing again and making it real hard to keep him in.

Congratulations, John! You successfully removed ALL his stuck shed!

:banana:, he's climbing again!!

Please tell me what the box is made from? I recommended a plastic food storage container for his super humid hide today. It's very important that he have one of those in his 10 gallon.

Any box should contain airholes so that he can breathe.

When will you be able to get his rehab 10 gallon prepared? He needs close monitoring because of his blackened lips.