Pictus Gecko Setu

Crestfield

Crestfield

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Hey I was planning on getting another gecko and after doing some research have decided on the Pictus/Panther gecko, but I wanted to know if these items would be enough to reasonably care for one.
Josh’s Frogs T-Rex Cocohut Dome Home
Josh’s Frogs Pinhead Banded Crickets(250)
TheBiodude Tankless Terra Fauna Bioactive Kit 10 Gallon
TheBiodude Natural Rock Water Dish(Small)
TheBiodude Fluker’s 10oz. Hand Mister
Chewy.com Repashy Superfood Calcium Plus
Chewy.com Zoo Med Natural Cork Round Habitat Decor
Chewy.com Zilla Bark Bends Habitat Decor
Chewy.com Exo Terra Lamp Holder Bracket
Chewy.com Exo Terra Daylight Basking Reptile(75W)
Petco. Aqueon Standard Glass Aquarium Tank 10 Gallon
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Crestfield said:
Can someone please reply?
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I'm sorry no one has replied. I have never kept Pictus/Panther geckos.

Instead of TheBiodude Fluker’s 10oz. Hand Mister I strongly recommend Spraymaster mister. Spraymaster comes in a 32 ounce size. It is warrantied for 5 years.! If the mister fails, Spraymaster can replace that separately.

I don't spot any powdered supplements on your list. I use and recommend Zoo Med's supplements:
  • Zoo Med's Repti Calcium WITH D3
  • Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3 (or plain calcium carbonate by NOW) -- Plain calcium NEVER expires.
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  • Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins withOUT D3

If you watch this entire video, you'll see that Dr. Stahl recommends Zoo Med supplements, because Reptivite contains pre-formed vitamin A (retinol). For link 159 click: Q & A with Scott Stahl, DVM -- June 2019 Herpeton Conference (video by Brian Kusko -- Triple B TV Episode 194)


PS:
If Repashy's Superfood Calcium Plus is an all-in-one multivitamin, I prefer to keep gecko and insect food and supplements separate.
 
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Crestfield

Crestfield

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Thank you for the feedback and I’ll look into that and for the powdered supplement the Repashy has both vitamins and calcium needed for a gecko and I just didn’t know if a Pictus gecko needed supplements without vitamins and with vitamins.
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Crestfield said:
Thank you for the feedback and I’ll look into that and for the powdered supplement the Repashy has both vitamins and calcium needed for a gecko and I just didn’t know if a Pictus gecko needed supplements without vitamins and with vitamins.
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You're welcome.

Does Repashy's Superfood Calcium Plus contain protein, fat, et cetera? If so, how much of each? Please link it.

I use an insect food similar to Pro Gutload's Insect Dry Diet for my crickets and dubia. Then I powder (or not) the insects prior to feeding them off. That way it's easier to tweak the amount of the gecko's supplements.

Will you need day and night heating? If so, a ceramic heat emitting bulb on a thermostat is a good choice. Ceramic heat emitters produce heat, but no visible light. However, inexpensive thermostats have only one setting.
 
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Crestfield

Crestfield

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Elizabeth Freer said:
You're welcome.

Does Repashy's Superfood Calcium Plus contain protein, fat, et cetera? If so, how much of each? Please link it.

I use an insect food similar to Pro Gutload's Insect Dry Diet for my crickets and dubia. Then I powder (or not) the insects prior to feeding them off. That way it's easier to tweak the amount of the gecko's supplements.

Will you need day and night heating? If so, a ceramic heat emitting bulb on a thermostat is a good choice. Ceramic heat emitters produce heat, but no visible light. However, inexpensive thermostats have only one setting.
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The light isn't necessary for the gecko but many recommend using a 50w-85w buld to regulate heat and for a nice basking spit as for linking I din't know exactly how to do that.
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Crestfield said:
The light isn't necessary for the gecko but many recommend using a 50w-85w buld to regulate heat and for a nice basking spit as for linking I din't know exactly how to do that.
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  • To link anything, find the exact product on a reliable website like Repashy's.
  • See whether the ingredients are listed.
  • If so, copy the URL that's shown above.
  • Then paste that URL into your post right here.
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Crestfield

Crestfield

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Elizabeth Freer said:
  • To link anything, find the exact product on a reliable website like Repashy's.
  • See whether the ingredients are listed.
  • If so, copy the URL that's shown above.
  • Then paste that URL into your post right here.
  • /\ Does that make sense?
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Thanks both of you! I think I got that down. The website said that the Rephasy Calcium Plus contain vitamins, calcium, protein and fat, but the protein and fat are only 2%.
https://www.store.repashy.com/calcium-plus-4-oz-bag.html
 
Crestfield

Crestfield

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acpart said:
I sent you a suggestion via PM but you can also check out this Gecko Time article:

Three to Get Ready: Paroedura - Gecko Time - Gecko Time

Aliza
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Thank you for the wonderful information! I think that what I have should be good enough for my gecko to sustain itself. I just have a few question about some of the things in the article. Two of them had put calcium dishes in for breeding females, would I need that for a male or non breeding female? Also can thermostats regulate Lamp temperatures?
 
Crestfield

Crestfield

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acpart said:
I sent you a suggestion via PM but you can also check out this Gecko Time article:

Three to Get Ready: Paroedura - Gecko Time - Gecko Time

Aliza
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Thank you for the wonderful information! I think that what I have should be good enough for my gecko to sustain itself. I just have a few question about some of the things in the article. Two of them had put calcium dishes in for breeding females, would I need that for a male or non breeding female? Also can thermostats regulate Lamp temperatures?
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Crestfield said:
Thank you for the feedback and I’ll look into that and for the powdered supplement the Repashy has both vitamins and calcium needed for a gecko and I just didn’t know if a Pictus gecko needed supplements without vitamins and with vitamins.
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All geckos need vitamin D3 + calcium. D3 is required in order for the gecko to metabolize calcium. Some multivitamins contain vitamin D3; some don't. Since D3 is fat soluble, it sticks around in a gecko's body for about 1 week and metabolizes calcium little by little.

I prefer separate supplements so that I can tweak the vitamins just right.

Depending upon the age of the Paroedura picta you get, it will also need plain calcium each week in order to develop strong bones.
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Crestfield said:
Thanks both of you! I think I got that down. The website said that the Rephasy Calcium Plus contain vitamins, calcium, protein and fat, but the protein and fat are only 2%.
https://www.store.repashy.com/calcium-plus-4-oz-bag.html
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Thanks.

Repashy's (Superfoods) Calcium Plus IS an all-in-one multivitamin that is frequently used. I think Aliza uses it. She has tweaked that for leos. The insects still need a good dry diet.

Those levels of protein and fat aren't nearly enough to keep insects healthy! An insect is like an empty pasta shell that needs filling. We are what we eat.

Consider getting Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry diet for your picta's insects' dry diet.

 
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Crestfield

Crestfield

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Elizabeth Freer said:
Thanks.

Repashy's (Superfoods) Calcium Plus IS an all-in-one multivitamin that is frequently used. I think Aliza uses it. She has tweaked that for leos. The insects still need a good dry diet.

Those levels of protein and fat aren't nearly enough to keep insects healthy! An insect is like an empty pasta shell that needs filling. We are what we eat.

Consider getting Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry diet for your picta's insects' dry diet.

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Thank you for the information and I'll look into this. Also would bread, fruit and vegetables be a sustainable gutload?
 
Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Crestfield said:
Thank you for the information and I'll look into this. Also would bread, fruit and vegetables be a sustainable gutload?
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NOPE!

Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload costs only $3. Store it in an airtight container so it stays viable as long as possible.

PLUS \/

"Lettuce (except dark, leafy greens) is just water and nutritionally irrelevant. People don't even give lettuce to tortoises and iguanas because it's worthless as food. The same could be said for potatoes. Fish flakes are very high in protein and this can lead to a build-up of uric acid in feeders/reptiles and end up causing gout. A little now and then is fine but this should never be the bulk of any gutload."

"A commercial gut loading food like Bug Burger or Superload (both by Repashy), Cricket Crack, Dinofuel, etc. is going to make your life easier AND provide a nutritious diet to your crickets at the same time. Avoid Fluker's gutloads, as they are super feeble in their formulas."

"If you opt for making your own gutload at home, here is a list of great ingredients to use:
Best: mustard greens, turnip greens, dandelion flowers & leaves, collard greens, escarole lettuce, papaya, watercress, and alfalfa.
Good: sweet potato, carrots, oranges, mango, butternut squash, kale, apples, beet greens, blackberries, bok choy, and green beans.
Dry food: bee pollen, organic non-salted sunflower seeds, spirulina, dried seaweed, flax seed, and organic non-salted almonds.
Avoid as much as possible: potatoes, cabbage, iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, corn, grains, beans, oats, bread, cereal, meat, eggs, dog food, cat food, fish food, canned or dead insects, vertebrates."
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Elizabeth Freer

Elizabeth Freer

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Crestfield said:
Thank you for this! I will add this to my list of cost and also could you check out the basking bulb? https://www.chewy.com/exo-terra-daylight-basking-reptile/dp/123912
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You're welcome.

I have no idea what wattage you'll need to maintain temps in a 10 gallon or whether Paroedura picta bask. That depends upon ambient room temps and involves trials.

In my experience Exo Terra bulbs aren't very reliable.

Will you need night time heat in order to maintain their minimums? If you'll need night heat too, you'll need a ceramic heat emitting bulb, because geckos can see white at night. Perhaps a special thermostat can handle differing day temps and night temps.
 
Crestfield

Crestfield

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Elizabeth Freer said:
You're welcome.

I have no idea what wattage you'll need to maintain temps in a 10 gallon or whether Paroedura picta bask. That depends upon ambient room temps and involves trials.

In my experience Exo Terra bulbs aren't very reliable.

Will you need night time heat in order to maintain their minimums? If you'll need night heat too, you'll need a ceramic heat emitting bulb, because geckos can see white at night. Perhaps a special thermostat can handle differing day temps and night temps.
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The night light isn't required, bUT many use an undertank heater.
 
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acpart

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If you use a thermostat with a light, it will keep turning the light on and off depending on the temperature. I recommend putting a light on a timer if you want to use one (I believe these geckos are nocturnal, so they really don't need a light beyond the ambient light in the room) and getting an under tank heater as mentioned above. Use the thermostat with that. It's probably best to dust feeders with Repashy Calcium plus every other feeding and not leave a dish of calcium in the enclosure.

Aliza
 
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