Update on Psycho, how her FLD is.
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Allee Toler
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You honestly have no input. When you're dealing with FLD, their weight is EASY to put on, but extremely difficult to loose. The fact that it's been what, 2 months? almost, and she's slimmed down that much is fantastic. Weight loss with FLD isn't an over night event. Whatever fat, good or bad, that enters the body is stored. When put on the diet, they will become more active due to the fact that their body is burning good fat because of their strict diet. The body knows when the next feeding will be.
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This messageboard is great. It's a good mixture of people who know different things. The ONLY things I'm 100% sure of is that GiGi is a girl, and how to take care of FLD. Ask me about morphs or genetics and I have no idea. Lol.
Allee Toler
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If you WANT to know about FLD, then read the link I posted previously. It's where I explained it in detail.
Allee Toler
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That's all anyone asks. I don't post if I don't know. And if you don't know, it's not horrible to ask questions.
ColdBlooded
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Okay, I have to say this and this is just a word of caution. I am not saying it is a bad thing to share ideas or information, because that is a great thing - BUT - we should not be diagnosing people's animals online! This is potentially dangerous, especially if there is truly nothing wrong with the animal. Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with that gecko; not even in the previous thread about it. Just because a gecko has fat deposits does NOT mean it has FLD. That's like saying all fat people have diabetes - sure, it increases the risk of it, but it does not mean they have it. I have seen fat deposits just like that in many, many healthy geckos that are FLD free.
Just to add, I'm not picking on anybody here. We all love our animals and want the best for them and of course we want input from other people. But save the diagnosis and treatment for the vets if you feel there is something truly wrong with your pet.
Just to add, I'm not picking on anybody here. We all love our animals and want the best for them and of course we want input from other people. But save the diagnosis and treatment for the vets if you feel there is something truly wrong with your pet.
Melonhelmet
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Im useless on genetics aswell, Im 100% sure that psycho is female. And im good at making gutload for crickets for really super cheap that they love.
I think it has been about a month and a half, 5g seems like an accomplishment, I really want her to be healthy infact im going to grab her now to let her run around on the keybored, ill be back in a sec.
Allee Toler
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Her gecko had fat covering the liver. My vet told me it's FLD if the gecko has fat covering the liver. In the previous thread, I said to be 100% certain to get a biopsy done at the vet. So I do not believe I'm diagnosing. Her gecko had the same symptoms and habits as mine in their eating pattern and laziness at night along with their inability to loose weight, but easy gain. I had to have a biopsy done to be officially diagnosed.
Melonhelmet
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Except im a guy, but it was a 50/50 shot you took there.
ColdBlooded
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Leos as a specie do not drop weight easily. They are built to retain it. The fat may appear to be covering the liver but it could really just be below the surface of the skin rather than actually on the liver.
I have seen leos with advanced FLD and the liver was very enlarged. It is often caused by starvation and the body mobilizing the fat stores from their tail and into their blood stream. A fatty diet can definitely contribute (getting it from a high fat diet), and I'm not saying it can't happen that way, but I don't see that leo as being unhealthy.
Allee Toler
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Lol. I noticed after I posted. =] I was like "Wait..that's a guy. oops. Oh well. Too late."
Melonhelmet
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Leos as a specie do not drop weight easily. They are built to retain it. The fat may appear to be covering the liver but it could really just be below the surface of the skin rather than actually on the liver.
I have seen leos with advanced FLD and the liver was very enlarged. It is often caused by starvation and the body mobilizing the fat stores from their tail and into their blood stream. A fatty diet can definitely contribute, and I'm not saying it can't happen that way, but I don't see that leo as being unhealthy.
She was fed on an unhealthyh diet of mainly superworms when winter came and it was all the pet sotre her had, she was on just supers for four months. She also has been healtier since I switch her to the diet, and more active. Even on the diet she hasnt lost weight in her tail only on this fat.
Allee Toler
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Leos as a specie do not drop weight easily. They are built to retain it. The fat may appear to be covering the liver but it could really just be below the surface of the skin rather than actually on the liver.
I have seen leos with advanced FLD and the liver was very enlarged. It is often caused by starvation and the body mobilizing the fat stores from their tail and into their blood stream. A fatty diet can definitely contribute, and I'm not saying it can't happen that way, but I don't see that leo as being unhealthy.
There's one way to know for sure, and that's to stick a needle into her liver and test it. BOOYY does that sound painful. =D Or to go to the vet and ask. Vets can tell easily. Mine knew immediately. FLD makes them go through anorexic stages. Which makes it worse. I'm just glad it's not genetic. (given that it affects 1 in 4 reptiles)
ColdBlooded
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I know breeders who feed supers as a staple diet and I doubt all their geckos have FLD. They have very healthy animals. No, I wouldn't recommend supers as a staple, but I am just throwing that out there.
There's nothing wrong with you changing her diet, especially if you feel she is doing better on it. As I said, I am not attacking anybody here but rather warning that diagnosing without any vet experience or without even seeing the animal in person can be very dangerous.
Melonhelmet
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Anorexic stages? Shes never had that though.
Melonhelmet
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Its not like im popping pills in her lol, Just making her have about 5 crickets ever two nights instead of five hundred and sixty billion. every night. I also handle her alot more.
Does that sound okay to you? i thinl it will benifit her either way.
Allee Toler
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Anorexic stages come along when FLD is really bad and untreated. That's why they're put on a scheduled feeding, to prevent them from a hunger strike. GiGi's only had one, after she was diagnosed. She didn't eat for two months.