Housing Geckos Together

DeabGex

New member
Hey guys,
We currently have our two female leos housed together in a ten gallon tank, and they get along great, both are doing very well. We were wondering if adding a third would be too many for such a small tank, It seems to me they would not have enough space, but i wanted to see what you guys thought. The two in there now do great, thanks
Dean
 

Palor

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Look into getting a 40g Breeder tank, it has a great amount of floor space and you can do so much with it in terms of decoration, caves, etc. A trio of Leos would do very well in that, and you have the 10g as backup in case 1 doen't like roommates.
 

ColdBlooded

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a ten gallon is to small for one leo but three is way to small. 20 gallon minimum for 1 gecko

Where are you getting this information? 10 gallons is not too small for one leo. Now, I don't think you should be housing more than one leo in a 10 gallon tank, that could get pretty crowded. Do look into getting a larger tank if you're going to be keeping a small colony. And as the above poster said, make sure you have a back up in case some of your ladies decide to not get along.
 

fickle

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i usally buy my tanks at garage sales or auctions that is definitly where the deals are and a 10 gal is to small for TWO but is good for one but size of the leo also depends on how much tank you need because if you have like two hatchlings in it for a while that woodnt be bad at all in a 10 gal
 

MellowMan24

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Where are you getting this information? 10 gallons is not too small for one leo. Now, I don't think you should be housing more than one leo in a 10 gallon tank, that could get pretty crowded. Do look into getting a larger tank if you're going to be keeping a small colony. And as the above poster said, make sure you have a back up in case some of your ladies decide to not get along.

the one site i read said 20 gallon min. sorry if i was wrong
 

Allee Toler

Member
I would never put one in a 10gal. Put in the two hides, plus the humid hide, food bowl, water bowl, calcium bowl, there's no room to run.

I would, however, keep two in a 20long.
 

acpart

Well-known member
I think it's good to realize that while there are some things that are clearly not OK to do (like feeding by throwing in a few crickets every week), there is also a range of what is reasonable. Some geckos are climbers and wanderers and may be happy in a 20 gallon minimum and some like to stay in 1 place. I have a gecko who is now housed in a 20 gallon with a "roomate", but she is in her magnet hide pretty much 24/7 and I would be comfortable putting her by herself in a 10 gallon.

Here's another compromise, which could probably be done with a 10 gallon but is better with a 20 gallon: build a second story. I have heated "upstairs" spaces in all my 20 gallons which house 3-4 geckos. They consist of dowel and PVC feet, with 2 tiles on top sandwiching a mini-UTH.

Aliza
 

Sinosauropteryx

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Tank size in gallons or floor space?

I concur with Aliza and Coldblooded here. There is that 10 gallon per leo rule and, like Allee said, when you put everything into a 10 gallon, after a while things do start to get cramped. In my personal oppinion, I would start with a 20 gallon and add 10 gallons per gecko. But I would still use a 10 gallon if I could not get anything else. It just wouldn't be my preference.

I think I should warn people, however, that what you are really looking for is ground space. My standard is 24x12 inches; I have seen tanks that qualify for that amount of ground space and yet, because they are shallow, they may instead qualify as 15 gallons. Technically I could still use that as my ideal. It just wouldn't be 20 gallons. Some tanks also qualify as 20 gallons but have less ground space. My leo Jubjub actually has (close to) a 25 gallon tank but it has no more ground space than Bahamut's 20 gallon tank. So when you see an available tank to use, remember to pull out your measuring tape.
 

ColdBlooded

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I'm not going to argue my opinion to death, but this is my experience with these animals.

Geckos do not usually appreciate "running around room." I have kept leos in larger tanks (and still have a couple in said tanks) and they usually do not take advantage of the extra space. These animals are more comfortable in smaller spaces and I have seen that if you have a lot of open, extra room then they are more likely to be intimidated and not come out because they feel exposed. I HAVE seen them climbing all over the things I put in their tanks.

You also have to remember that leopard geckos are not exactly the most active animal on the planet. They sleep most of the day and night and do not tend to move around much except to thermoregulate (ie - hey, I'm going to move to a cooler spot so I can regulate my temperature! I think I'll go sit there for a few hours!). Yes, every animal is different and I'm sure there are some that run laps around their tanks all day and night, but for the majority of the species this is not true.

So, all I'm saying is that it's not cruel and unusual to keep a leopard gecko in a ten gallon tank. You know, there are people that keep their animals in tubs that are sometimes smaller than a 10 gallon tank - you must really hate them! ;)

Anyway, I'm done derailing the thread.

OP - when you are looking for a larger tank for your colony make sure you select one that is considered a "long" tank versus a "high" tank. High tanks are usually meant for arboreal animals and/or they were fish tanks. These have the same gallon capacity of their longer counterparts, but less floor space because they are vertical. If you are looking to add another female I might suggest a 40 gallon breeder tank, just make sure that you are able to properly heat it! Larger tanks tend to be harder to heat and keep the ambient temperature up, but once you get a setup that works going it'll be fine.

Good luck on your search!
 

MellowMan24

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So, all I'm saying is that it's not cruel and unusual to keep a leopard gecko in a ten gallon tank. You know, there are people that keep their animals in tubs that are sometimes smaller than a 10 gallon tank - you must really hate them! ;)

i never said it was cruel i just think that more is better
 

kinggweedo1

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one of my males r in a ten gallon he was in a 20 long but he didnt eat and wouldnt move. so i moved him into a ten gallon and now he running around and eats all the time
 

Allee Toler

Member
No one's arguing here, they're just stating what they think is best, and why.

GiGi could live in a 5.5gal. Hell, I've kept her in it for months before (moving, vacations, and such). She stay in 1 square foot, when she gets too hot, she climbs onto her hammock. In her 5.5gal we usually put in her strawberry hide, put down slate, water bowl, cactus, hammock. All she uses. So each gecko is very different. On the other hand, there's Lucie. Very active hunter, and will jump clear across the 20 long after a cricket. She's never in the same hide for more than an hour.

I would say do what works for your individual gecko. We're thinking about moving GiGi into the 5.5gal permanently to make room for another baby on the way who's closer to Lucie's size. She's small, a dwarf, and loves to be in her 5.5gal. She's rarely ever in her tank anyways. When she hunts, she's more likely to do it in a 5.5gal, than in a 20gal where the food can scatter more. She doesn't need multiple hides, she never uses them (bash all you want, but GiGi is an oddity, and doesn't classify [in my eyes] as a leopard gecko. She thinks she's human...) and when she sheds, we soak her and shed her ourselves to prevent her from biting herself (she can't shed, even with a humid hide, due to missing brain functions).


So it all just depends on the gecko. I do think more than 1 in a 10 gal is pushing it, unless they're babies.
 

cat_named_noodles

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I agree that while it depends on the gecko, 10 gallons is the minimum for one, maybe two if they get along and aren't very active, and you have a minimum of 1 hide per gecko, plus the humid hide. I have kept two of my girls in a 20 gallon long, and I have kept my two other girls in a ten gallon for a while (they are still juvies). I noticed though that Lorelei (my Tremper Enigma) wasn't gaining weight as fast as Neko, and so I moved Neko to the 20 gal with the other two girls.
They have never fought, and all share the same hide 90% of the time. Similar to Aliza I have made "second stories" in the 20 gal using stacked slate tiles. The humid hide is really big, and there's piece of slate over that with another hide on top.
Over the UTH there's a cave I made by stacking smaller pieces of slate tile on the sides, and covering it with another piece of slate. Then on top of that is another hide with a weird extension at the top (I call it Pride Rock, lol).
Lorelei was still not eating much when in the ten gallon by herself, so she's now in a 5.5, and finally gaining weight. I think it's her personality, and perhaps because she's an albino and an enigma, she's a little weird.
Then Keenan, the biggest of my leos, is happy in his ten gallon by himself.
I really think it depends on the geckos, but I wouldn't keep 3 in a ten gallon personally.
 

commrad10108325

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I think it's good to realize that while there are some things that are clearly not OK to do (like feeding by throwing in a few crickets every week), there is also a range of what is reasonable. Some geckos are climbers and wanderers and may be happy in a 20 gallon minimum and some like to stay in 1 place. I have a gecko who is now housed in a 20 gallon with a "roomate", but she is in her magnet hide pretty much 24/7 and I would be comfortable putting her by herself in a 10 gallon.

Here's another compromise, which could probably be done with a 10 gallon but is better with a 20 gallon: build a second story. I have heated "upstairs" spaces in all my 20 gallons which house 3-4 geckos. They consist of dowel and PVC feet, with 2 tiles on top sandwiching a mini-UTH.

Aliza


if it is not to much to ask can you post a picture of that i like the idea of giving a little more room to them k have 2 housed i a 3lx3wx1 1/2and even though its kinda large i would like them to be able to get up to the night glo and not have to make the whole tank to hot with the emmiter if not that is ok and thank you any way
 

acpart

Well-known member
I'll be posting a picture of the first one I made as soon as I can get to my other computer. For this one I hand-made the posts of ceramics, but for the other ones I used wooden dowels (3/4" or 1" in diameter) and put them into 1" PVC pipe "feet".

ALiza
 

acpart

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Here is my gecko upstairs:

geckoUpstairs.jpg


What you can see is 4 red posts which I made out of ceramics (by wrapping clay around a dowel). It's much easier to either get some PVC pipe cut to the proper size (tall enough to put a hide underneath but short enough so you can fit the hide on top as well), or else you can use thick wooden dowels set into PVC "feet" (just go to a home supply store and look for about 2" PVC connectors that are the right diameter to fit the dowels snugly).

For a 20 gallon long, I use two 12"x12" tiles. In the picture you can see them one on top of the other. The bottom one has the glazed side facing down and the top side has the glazed side facing up. There are dominoes between them at the 4 corners to provide space for the mini UTH that's also under there.

One thing that I changed is that in this picture the upstairs is set above the hot side which is inconvenient because it's hard to keep putting my hand under there to move geckos in their warm hides. Now it's over the cool side and underneath it I have just the water dish and poop area. There is a lay box next to the upstairs and the geckos can easily climb on that to get "upstairs". Other people have used other methods to make upper levels.

Aliza
 
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