Yet another NZ bust?

Nephrurus

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I also hope they can be released. I can't see the point in smuggling wild caught animals. Why not contact a breeder in NZ and smuggle some healthy CB ones? It'd certainly maximise you chances of survival AND not affect the wild population.
Wildlife poaching is a terrible thing... Although the punishment is just... the guilty parties will probably get raped repeatedly by some massive lifers.
 

GeckoFiend

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but, if you look at the risk: $192000 OR the chance at less than 4 months in jail and 10k in fines?

No wonder people are taking the chance. They need to have more than a slap on the wrist.
 

GeckoTom

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Yes, I also think that 10.000,-- is a much to small fee!
And the time in jail, too!

Thre is no real danger for the smugglers

Regards
Tom
 

Ruru

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If it were Kiwi that guy was smuggling, I'm sure the sentence would have been much heavier. Unfortunately most New Zealanders, including judges, think only the cute and fluffy animals are worth protecting. The NZ government is making poaching not only affordable, but profitable. How much would a pregnant N. stellatus fetch in U.S. dollars or in Euros?

I hope that they have banned the poacher from entering NZ, and have registered him with interpol. He should have a mandatory cavity search whenever he travels, though hopefully hes getting a few in prison as well :)
 

Southernman

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Yup, another NZ bust

Apparenlty with the number of poachers getting caught, NZ are looking at increasing the fines & prison terms, as it's all to lite thus far.

Here's a Jeweled gecko, I'm sure German Tourists would love this beatie!
 

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Ruru

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Jewelled geckos look kinda lumpy don't they. Amazing patterns though.
I hope they do seriously review their fines, and take into account the blackmarket value for each animal. At least their detection techniques seem to be getting better.
 

Southernman

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Lumpy Jewels

Hi Ruru,

Yeah they do look a little lumpy, not nearly as lumpy as say Naultinu rudis - now that's a seriously lumpy gecko!

I've a better photo of a Jeweled gecko in the photo gallery:)
 

oli

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A pregnant N. stellatus one could probably ask an unreasonable dollar amount and someone would pay it. I don't know which species there are in the US aside from the elegans and grayii. In reality they could all be here in the underground scene.
 

porphyriacus

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Here they are!

This is the guys!

Gustavo Toledo-Albarran and Thomas Price:

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David

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do you have permission to show their faces??? it is a public large scale forum!

of course their crime is reprehensible, but your kind of voyeurism is just as it is

no one has accused Thomas when he brought back some h. taylori and a few others geckos from Somalia and put pics here on the forum (oh maybe they are legals because it is chaos in estern africa???)

protections are subjectives (see GeckoTom's thread below), I don't think a lot of folks here can say if taylori are more common in the wild than over-protected naultinus in their habitat

sometimes hypocrisy and disrespect of internet users are really a shame and pity

I'm a "noob kid" compared to some folks of the forum and might be wrong, but that's just I feel while seeing all of those messages
 
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