Phoenix worms?

[gizmo143]

I have been feeding my Leopard Gecko Gizmo, mealworms and wanted to vary his diet but he has eye issues and can't really hunt. i hand feed him and don't want to deal with crickets. i heard about phoenix worms but they seem expensive so i wanted to hear any info or opinions about them before i order any. any experience with them is great even if its not with a Leo!:feedback:
thanks, Meaghan

 

[OffshoreMetal]

Someone need to confirm but i heard that silkworms make a good diet for Leopard geckos. They are big but really soft but also kinda expensive ( 75 cents each at my Local pet shop ). I dont know about Phoenix worm but i'm sure someone else will be able to tell you about them.

 

[gizmo143]

I have thought about silkworms but have no idea where i might get them and they seem kinda big

 

[Allee Toler]

Phoenix worms are a good choice to vary the diet if you can get your gecko to eat them. Not many geckos like them. I start all of my hatchlings off on them before varying their diets with dubia nymphs, mealworms, supers, etc.

Silkworms are a great feeder, too. But remember that you still need to vary the diet. One feeder alone won't be a good enough diet.

Silkworms, phoenixworms, butterworms, waxworms (occasionally as treats), mealworms, superworms, crickets, and roaches are all feeders you should give a try.

 

[gizmo143]

I've looked into roaches but none of the pet stores in the area have them and i don't want to order any phoenix worms until im sure about them because they're wicked expensive.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I've looked into roaches but none of the pet stores in the area have them and i don't want to order any phoenix worms until im sure about them because they're wicked expensive.

Meaghan ~

Perhaps you could get a starter supply of young Blaptica dubia from a reptile show. Is there a local herpetological society near you? Someone there may be breeding those roaches.

 

[Turtlestork]

When it comes to live foods, I find ordering online is the best. Pet stores love to charge a lot. Until recently I got all my crickets that way. Now I go to a local shop.

I've HEARD roaches were a very nice food to keep- clean and nutritious. However, their bad rap kind of repulses people. If my mom would let me bring them into the house they'd be my food of choice.

Silkworms are apparently very nutritious, but also very expensive. I've heard they are one of the best. I've heard good about phoenix worms, too, despite being expensive.

Have you checked if here are any local supply shops that may supply them? Not a chain store like petsmart or petco?

TS

 

[gizmo143]

I've tried to find a reptile society in little new england but with no success near my area. I already go to petstore that isn't a big chain and my mom wouldn't let me keep roaches, so im looking for something that isn't too expensive. ( I'm only 12)

 

[chasethechef]

Phoenix worms are also called retailer's look them up on the net by this name they are cheaper to buy. I've been using them for my 2 geckos for a month now and they love them. They can't climb like meal worms and super worms so stay in the bowl better and you don't lose any.

 

[chasethechef]

Reptiworms sorry spell check got me.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Phoenix worms are also called retailer's look them up on the net by this name they are cheaper to buy. I've been using them for my 2 geckos for a month now and they love them. They can't climb like meal worms and super worms so stay in the bowl better and you don't lose any.

Reptiworms sorry spell check got me.

I do not have much personal experience with Phoenix worms. However, I have heard that the
the genuine Phoenix worms differ from the reptiworms sold by places like Petco?

 

[CorgiNole]

The genuine Phoenix worms are different from the Reptiworms.

My geckos go nuts for the Phoenix worms and I'm getting ready to place another order for them. I ordered the medium worms the first go round, and they were smaller than I expected, so I shall be ordering the large ones from here on out for my two adult leopard geckos.

We kept the sample container in my son's room, and did not have issues with keeping them. What I like about them is that I don't have to feed them or gutload them. And they are well balanced for calcium/phosphorus. The girls also enjoy crickets. The next worms we will try will be silk worms for variety.

Cheers, K

 

[Knash14]

I thought id try Phoenixworms because of the calcium levels and none of my leo's would even touch them. Would get is the strike position and then just look at them, also the size of the worm in pictures do no justice to how small they are. If my adult male leo would have ate them he could no problem smash 100 of these worms in a single setting.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I thought id try Phoenixworms because of the calcium levels and none of my leo's would even touch them. Would get is the strike position and then just look at them, also the size of the worm in pictures do no justice to how small they are. If my adult male leo would have ate them he could no problem smash 100 of these worms in a single setting.

How old were the leos you gave Phoenix worms to? What are they accustomed to eating?

The largest genuine Phoenix worms are only 3/4 inch long.

Best to order a starter supply of a new food first. Some leos can be choosey. My leo did not go for the Phoenix worms either.

Perhaps it helps if the leo is given a variety from the beginning?

 

[Andi]

[QUOTESilkworms, phoenixworms, butterworms, waxworms (occasionally as treats), mealworms, superworms, crickets, and roaches are all feeders you should give a try.[/QUOTE]

I saw Butterworms this weekend but passed on them because I thought they looked like big WaxWorms (and thought that was bad).

Maybe I should go back and get some?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Silkworms, phoenixworms, butterworms, waxworms (occasionally as treats), mealworms, superworms, crickets, and roaches are all feeders you should give a try.

I saw Butterworms this weekend but passed on them because I thought they looked like big WaxWorms (and thought that was bad).

Maybe I should go back and get some?

Good move skipping those butterworms, Andi. Too fatty!

Try: crickets, genuine Phoenix worms, roaches, silkworms, hornworms, mealworm pupae, freshly molted mealworms, calciworms, grasshoppers, and locusts (smallest locusts possible).

 

[KH2722]

I've been feeding my leo Phoenix worms and he seems to enjoy them. I bought 100 of the medium ones from the reptile expo when I bought him. They were $5 for 100 which I thought was very reasonable. Plus, the woman who I bought them from is local so I'll be able to meet up with her when I need more. I fed my other leo crickets but I don't like dealing with them all the time so I went with the phoenix worms as a staple and will feed crickets and other tasty things off and on. He doesn't get very excited about hunting them but then again it could be his personality.

 

[New Leopard Gecko Owner]

I heard phoenix worms are really packed with calcium, the problem is they are very fatty, they are very good in moderation, due to that they are packed with calcium.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I heard phoenix worms are really packed with calcium, the problem is they are very fatty, they are very good in moderation, due to that they are packed with calcium.

Phoenix worms are relatively LOW in fat:

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(quoted from the Phoenix worm website)

Genuine Phoenix worms have a naturally balanced calcium : phosphorus ratio.

"Phoenix Worms are the only calcium-rich feeder with the perfect balance of calcium and phosphorus, 1.5:1. ............ Breeders report that hatchlings that are fed PWs right from the start are more than 30% larger than their clutch mates after just a few weeks! They also note higher activity levels and brighter colors for the babies that were fed PWs.

Here's why you will like this new premium feeder insect:
Phoenix Worms are ready to serve when you take them home. There's no need to dust or gut load these insects before feeding your pet. Phoenix Worms are low in fat and naturally have 23 to 61 times more calcium than other commonly fed feeder insects!

---No need to culture them
---You don't feed them
---Stay fresh in their cup for weeks at room temperature (even longer at 50-60 degrees)
---No noise
---No odor
---Will stay in a dish--no escapees in the house!
---Convenient to take on vacation--or easy for a pet sitter to serve while you're away

You're going to enjoy watching your pet discover this new food. People tell us that their animals get excited when they see the "black cup" coming!

Here's why your pet will love Phoenix Worms:
---They wiggle like crazy which excites and entices herps. Great food for a picky eater!
---They taste good (a guess, but herps greedily consume them)
---Come in four sizes to satisfy most pets, from darts to dragons (largest is 3/4 inch only)
---Stimulate the appetite of animals that don't readily feed
---Can halt or reverse the effects of metabolic bone disease
---Provide a boost of nutrition for gravid or just-laid females

A great start for all hatchlings!"

 

[BrokenShadow]

Someone need to confirm but i heard that silkworms make a good diet for Leopard geckos. They are big but really soft but also kinda expensive ( 75 cents each at my Local pet shop ). I dont know about Phoenix worm but i'm sure someone else will be able to tell you about them.

I don't know about price, but I've read/heard that silk worms were high in fat, and if you feed them to your gecko too often, then the gecko will become overweight. -- I could be wrong, though.