Best worms for Leopard Geckos?

Leah Stables

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I know that mealworms are not nutritionally the greatest for leopard geckos, but what's a good alternative? I am not allowed crickets in my house (plus I HATE crickets), so what other wormy, non-jumping forms of food can I give my leopard gecko?
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Leah ~

Blaptica dubia roaches make excellent feeders (as do crickets). Before you write them off, google for care info. These guys do not fly or climb glass. My leopard gecko eats them all the time now with a cricket thrown in for good measure.
 
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gizmo143

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I have this same question to. my Mom would FREAK if i brought roaches anywhere near the house ( im only 12) so are there any alternatives to Mealies and Crickets that don't hop or chirp. i've heard of Phoenix worms, but i know they are expensive and not many leos seem to like them. Plus, no one near me sells silkworms, waxworms or stuff like that.
 

Allee Toler

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I personally feed mealworms, superworms, and b. dubias regularly. Phoenix worms for hatchlings for the first few weeks. Whenever I randomly come across extra money in our funding I buy some butterworms and silkworms to feed. Otherwise my mealworm, superworm, and dubia colonies suffice.

If feeding mealworms and crickets is all you can do then that's all you can do. The cheapest feeders are mealies, supers, and crickets.
 

gizmo143

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The supers at the store are like GIANT and I honestly think that they will like eat my gecko before he can eat them:blushing: they seem really long, im probably being paranoid but are they ok? my leo is a full grown adult (2 1/2 yrs.)
 

Leah Stables

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I've tried phoenix worms before and my leo refused to eat them... he tried one but wouldn't eat any more. I'm going to start mixing the occaisional silkworm (got some tonight!) and possibly butterworms, any other suggestions?
And gizmo if your leo is adult it should be able to handle super worms just fine :)
 
simple phoenix worms

i use phoenix worms as they are naturally high in calcium. they are a much better alternative.
also if you live in a certain area you can catch them with the bio pod. tho its like $200 google it for more info.
better yet here is a link...
Grow your own Soldier Fly Larva from the organic waste in your own home! - Live Crickets Shipped Superworms Mealworms, Wax Worms, Phoenix Worms 30680


click the 4th picture and scroll your mouse over to zoom if you live in the said zone 7, 8 or 9

one more thing if you use the biopod you will find that the worms are BIGGER so instead of your reptile ignoring the small phoenix worms. they are larger and wouldnt be ignored
 
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Ozymandias

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The supers at the store are like GIANT and I honestly think that they will like eat my gecko before he can eat them:blushing: they seem really long, im probably being paranoid but are they ok? my leo is a full grown adult (2 1/2 yrs.)

i know what you mean but leos can take on the big guys not problem
 

Sinosauropteryx

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Best worm

Best worms by far, hands down, are definately silkworms. They are actually the most nutritious feeder out there, which is probably why they are so expensive. Crickets and roaches don't count, since they are not worms ;-) but if you can't get silkworms, roaches may be the next best thing.

I have no experience with phoenix worms or butter worms so I couldn't tell you about them, but the latter is supposedly high in fat - much like waxworms - so they might not be a good idea for a staple.

Super worms are better than mealworms (and no, they won't eat your gecko) but there is still their exoskeletons and higher fat content to worry about.

My fire skink will eat earthworms and my green basilisk will eat fish and very small shrimp, but they may not be good ideas for leopard geckos.

How many people here have tried wolf spiders? Bahamut (see my sig) loves them. He goes after them with a fervor that I have never seen with any other feeder.
 

DRivera

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How many people here have tried wolf spiders? Bahamut (see my sig) loves them. He goes after them with a fervor that I have never seen with any other feeder.

Man, you know I've been wanting to try some wolf spiders, granted my leo is still a juvenile. How would I go about getting some? I am not catching them by hand, I've been bit by one before and it hurt like hell and honestly I am now terrified of spiders. But how do you gets yours?
 

gizmo143

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I've heard of some people catching moths and stufff for the gecko to eat. my gacko vet said it should be alright as long as there are no pesticides in the area.

back to me freakingout about superworms... are you sure?! they seem giant. the one at the store are at least a few inches long!:blushing:
 

Sinosauropteryx

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Catching wolf spiders

How many people here have tried wolf spiders? Bahamut (see my sig) loves them. He goes after them with a fervor that I have never seen with any other feeder.
Man, you know I've been wanting to try some wolf spiders, granted my leo is still a juvenile. How would I go about getting some? I am not catching them by hand, I've been bit by one before and it hurt like hell and honestly I am now terrified of spiders. But how do you gets yours?
You sure you want to know? ;-)

You can find wolf spiders hiding under rocks and large pieces of wood. They don't spin webs; instead, they run after their food, so you won't really know whether you are about to find one or not until you actually see it.

If you don't want to use your hands, you can use an empty yoghourt container and a brush to sweep them into the container. They can't clime vertical surfaces very well so don't worry about covering the container. Then just drop them into your gecko's tank.

Make sure your leopard gecko sees you drop it into the tank or it will run off somewhere and hide, then you will have to use your hands to get it out into the open again. The best way is to take everything out of the tank except for your gecko, then drop the spider in. If your gecko is hungry, it will eventually see the spider.

To be honest, I was kind of puzzled when you typed that you got bitten by a wolf spider. I have never been bitten by one before, and I used to pick them up all the time. If you are concerned about whether the spider will bite the gecko, you could try snipping the celicera (fangs) with nail clippers. You'll either need tongs, tweezers, or your hands to do that. I never did it with wolf spiders but I did do it with earwigs - first the tail pincers, then the mandibles on the head - and my gecko was able to eat it.

If the spider you catch does bite you, then don't feed it to your leopard gecko. It might be a different kind of spider and therefore might have venom, or it might just be an overly-aggressive wolf spider that is more likely than not to bite your gecko. In which case it isn't a good idea. The smaller and less aggressive ones are OK, though.

I've heard of some people catching moths and stufff for the gecko to eat. my gacko vet said it should be alright as long as there are no pesticides in the area.
Yeah, sure. I used to feed Pepé moths all the time in the summer.

back to me freakingout about superworms... are you sure?! they seem giant. the one at the store are at least a few inches long!:blushing:
They are big, but they rarely bite. Once your leopard gecko has the worm in its mouth, the worm won't be able to bite anyway. Many leopard geckos chew their super worms up before eating them. Others strike the worm at just the right place, instantly immobilizing it before the gecko eats it.
 
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Leah Stables

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I tried silkworms last night... he ate one out of three, one died, and the last he doesn't seem to have any interest in.
Once he's big enough I'd definately like to mix in some butterworms and waxworms.
Another question, can all these different types of worms in the same container? I leave quite a few worms in a container in his tank so he can eat all the time, if I put hornworms in with waxworms in with butterworms will they kill each other?
 

Sinosauropteryx

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Worms are not cannibals

Another question, can all these different types of worms in the same container? I leave quite a few worms in a container in his tank so he can eat all the time, if I put hornworms in with waxworms in with butterworms will they kill each other?
As I understand it, no, they won't kill each other. The worm-like insect larvae you give your leopard gecko are not cannibalistic and will not even eat meat. They eat grains and cereals (wheat, barley, oats, etc.) and they can also eat fresh or rotting vegetable matter, but not meat. At least not that I have seen. I put three wax worms with four super worms into my fire skink's food dish last night and they pretty much ignored one another until I put them into my skink's tank. Then she ate them, but I don't think that counts :biggrin:
 
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