Leopard Gecko not eating; I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING! HELP!

Emmalou

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My vet actually did not confirm that it was the reovirus. My vet was puzzled because he said that the bloating could of had numerous causes. But he did say that the lack of protein in his system was causing his digestive system to stop absorbing the fluids. The fluid does not get passed through the body, rather INTO the body. My vet said it was most likely escaping through the walls of my leo’s intestines and that is dangerous because not only does it cause the bloating and pressure on the organs, it can also enter other organs like the lungs. Reovirus is commonly found in the digestive tract as well as the respiratory system. My vet was hoping that we caught whatever this sickness is in time so that we can save him. However, in the past few hours he has not shown much improvement…. But maybe I’m making myself too anxious and I know my leo is stressed from the vet visit.

How that may shine a bit of light and answer some of the questions. If you have any more I will try and answer them.
 

M&S-328

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Did the vet say that the medication would give your leo the protein it needs? Did he tell you how this happened?

Its interesting to know that the liquid retention/bloating is a symptom of something else - I had yet to hear of this happening. Could there be a connection? Im so curious now.

I hope the treatments work for your leo! And dont get too worried - there is no miracle cure. So if it does help your leo it will take time. Dont expect to see results very soon, just be patient and never give up! (remember, your leo may even seem to be even more sick - but it could just be because it not used to the helpful treatment it's getting).

Good luck!
 

Emmalou

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He actually gave me some critical care food to replace the nutrients he's missing. Mostly protein was what he was concerned about because that helps absorb the liquid and restores strength my Leo has lost from being ill. I understand your curiousity, I'm still curious as well! He said that the main cause of the liquid retention is the lack of nutrients from not eating because nutrients help the digestive tract to function normally. But the not eating was caused by something else which he can't pinpoint. I feel it is the virus judging by the symptoms I've read about.

I hope my Leo recovers. But only time will tell. It's getting lots of rest and I hope if it doesn't make it, it's as comfortable as possible when the time comes. It's hard to stay positive :( but I'm trying!
 

Emmalou

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I will! Gotta stay positive!

But no it doesn't :/ and the vet said it's too young to sex. I call it Little One :) but once I found out the sex I will name it!
 

Emmalou

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Leo update and some ?’s

Okay, so this morning I gave my leo it’s medicine and it took it very well today. However, I’m supposed to be feeding 1cc of the critical care food, but my leo wants nothing to do with it. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to open a leo’s mouth without hurting it. My leo is in a very fragile state and I just want him to get food and water into his system. The medicine was easy because it can just lick it off it’s nose. Anyway, here’s an update:

My leo seems to be showing some strength and is moving faster than yesterday. However, his eyes are always half-open and he looks very dehydrated which is why I need to open his mouth.

Will keep everyone up-to-date. As for my questions, I’d love some feedback from anyone :) Thanks!!
 

M&S-328

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When my baby had the reovirus i had to force feed him too. I did not get any medicine or critical care food, so I improvised with chicken baby food. I know it wasnt the best, but at the time everywhere I checked had not received any shipments of the critcal care food and all online outlets were sold out.. =/ So I'm glad you got some and I hope it works!
Below is a quote from a previous post of mine to someone else who needed to know hhow to force feed a baby. I cpoied and pasted it.. hope it helps!

"As for feeding methods, getting a gecko to eat when they dont want to can be tricky. Some geckos will just open up their mouths when you brush the side with something, others (like mine) require force feeding when ill. First, try brushing her mouth with an appropriately sized cricket (held with tweezer/tongs) if she shows no interest after a few tries, then maybe try baby food. Thats the method Im currently trying.
You can use chicken baby food mash and mix about a teaspoon amount per feeding with calcium powder/leopard gecko vitamin powders (or critical care leopard gecko food if you can find some).
The two feeding methods you can try with this are 1. you can take a tiny bit on a spoon and place a small drop just beneath the nostrils (dont cover the nostrils though!) and see if she'll lick it off. If she does, repeat that for as long as she'll eat/till the teaspoon amount is gone. However, if she refuses to lick it off and wipes off her nose each time you place on a drop, then it may be time to force feed.
So, method 2. force feeding. This one is tricky, and im just learning it myself. But, the best method to this is to take the leo in your hand and hold her in your fist (fingers curled around her with her head poking out the top - you can use your thumb to apply pressure down on her as needed, but be careful!). Be sure not to squeeze her too much, it may take a couple tries to figure out how tightly to restrain her without hurting her. Also, do your best to make sure her back legs and tail are NOT being restrained! if she feels you are holding onto her tail/back legs tightly she may drop her tail to help free herself. Once you have her restrained (probably in your left hand) then you can take your right hand and gently slip the nails of your right-hand thumb and pointer-finger (like you are going to pinch her bottom jaw..but with your nailsin the side "slits" of her mouth..) into her mouth forcing it open enough to get the tips of your two fingers in on each side. But please be very very careful! She will bite at this point, it will hurt a little, but she probably wont be able to break the skin. To get the food into her mouth I need help - got someone to be ready to squirt a little food into its mouth as you hold her mouth open (I say squirt because I use a small syringe like "dropper" - i think its supposed to be for baby medicine?). Make sure you trust the person getting in the baby mash, because you can only put in small drops at a time, and the "tool" used to feed cannot be shoved into the mouth, just slightly slide the "tube-like" part in a small bit.
Its a tough thing to master, and im still learning myself. I hope this helped you though! Let me know if you find any better methods too!"

Sorry if thats a bit rough and hard to follow. I wrote that a few months back - and I had never had to force feed a baby until that time, so I was pretty frazzled about it.

Good luck!
 

Emmalou

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It was great! :) I used the second method and had someone help me. We got my leo to eat! But I’m only doing little bits at a time, a few times a day. That way it doesn’t get too full too fast and can digest it between each feeding.

Thank you so much for your help!! :yahoo:
 

houseape57

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He actually gave me some critical care food to replace the nutrients he's missing. Mostly protein was what he was concerned about because that helps absorb the liquid and restores strength my Leo has lost from being ill. I understand your curiousity, I'm still curious as well! He said that the main cause of the liquid retention is the lack of nutrients from not eating because nutrients help the digestive tract to function normally. But the not eating was caused by something else which he can't pinpoint. I feel it is the virus judging by the symptoms I've read about.

I hope my Leo recovers. But only time will tell. It's getting lots of rest and I hope if it doesn't make it, it's as comfortable as possible when the time comes. It's hard to stay positive :( but I'm trying!

The reason for lack of appetite is mostly due to the pressure on the other organs, and pain. Hopefully your baby will eat soon and you can put this behind you. I have seen many come back to normal a few days after the fluid is removed.
 

Emmalou

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Update!

Well, this morning I went to check on my leo and the fluid is almost completely gone :biggrin: It took it's medicine very well today and has been since it was taken to the vet, it’s piña colada flavored haha, maybe that’s why. However, it really doesn’t want to eat. I got some food into it’s belly yesterday, do I’m hoping to do the same today. I’m just glad the fluid is finally going away. Also, my leo doesn’t seem to be acting much different. It’s moving around a lot more, but still very lethargic-like, the eyes are still half open or closed most of the time, but hopefully it’s just because of the medicine. I’m about to call my vet to give him the update and see if he has any ideas.

And houseape57, since you’ve seen this before, can you tell me why my leo hasn’t eaten yet? You would think since the pressure has been relieved that it would want to eat… Just a question though.

So far, things are looking up, but we aren’t out of the woods yet. :fight:
 

Saskia

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I was out of GU for a couple of days and I am very surprised to read so much has changed!! I had never heard about tis, but will be definitely doing some more research on this subject soon!! Good that all the fluid seem to be gone!! Great work!! Is your leo pooping???? how does the stool look???
 

Emmalou

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My leo has pretty much stayed in the same spot for the past few days, but I noticed some runny white liquid in the tank. It had some brown, but not much. It looks like that may be a stool, not much of one though. My leo has eaten a pretty good amount today, but I also need it to drink. It is VERY dehydrated. Any tips on how to boost that hydration up?

I’m hoping that tomorrow I’ll find even more improvement. But with all the water loss, I can see how thin my leo is :( Anyway, tips for keeping up hydration would be wonderful because I don’t think my leo has any interest in finding water itself. I am giving it water with a syringe, but I want to give my leo as much as possible.
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Well, this morning I went to check on my leo and the fluid is almost completely gone :biggrin: It took it's medicine very well today and has been since it was taken to the vet, it’s piña colada flavored haha, maybe that’s why. However, it really doesn’t want to eat. I got some food into it’s belly yesterday, do I’m hoping to do the same today. I’m just glad the fluid is finally going away. Also, my leo doesn’t seem to be acting much different. It’s moving around a lot more, but still very lethargic-like, the eyes are still half open or closed most of the time, but hopefully it’s just because of the medicine. I’m about to call my vet to give him the update and see if he has any ideas.

And houseape57, since you’ve seen this before, can you tell me why my leo hasn’t eaten yet? You would think since the pressure has been relieved that it would want to eat… Just a question though.

So far, things are looking up, but we aren’t out of the woods yet. :fight:

Keep on truckin', Emmalou and leo!
 
Are you mixing the food with any fluids? I've always used hills a/d mixed with unflavored pediatric fluids (pedialite or equivalent).

50:50 is pretty thin but if hydration is an issue you'll want to keep it thin.

Misting the Leo will prompt it to drink some as well.

Maurice Pudlo
 

Emmalou

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The food is actually pretty watery. But I gave my Leo a warm bath with half pedialyte half warm water. I will definitely start mixing the food with liquids if it will help. I'm just wanting so badly to see my Leo put on weight. I noticed that it responds well to water. It enjoys it very much and I noticed that it perks my Leo right up! Anyway, great tips :) let me know if you guys have any others.
 

Saskia

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Mix the a/d with non flavored pedialite!! It'll hydrate him better than water!! How's he looking today??
 

Emmalou

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My leo looks a million times better :biggrin: I woke up today and to an alert and happy gecko. I think the bath yesterday really helped. There are less indications of dehydration and his eyes are open today! Stools are more solid and the fluid is again going away. I think it’s made it past the hump!!!

I’m so excited!!!! :D :cheer:
 
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