Another sad/advanced case of MBD, advice needed, please help me save him
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Saskia
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He is shedding right now... I´ll wait and see how that goes, he is in his humid hide (I put him there and closed the lid, because he wanted to come out), I am observing the process, he has a few air holes, sofocation is not a worry, after he is done shedding I´ll take another picture and see how the feet end up.....
Yoshi'smom
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Let's hope he's able to get the shed of his front feet! Poor critter! Keep us updated.
Saskia
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OK, the feet are pretty much the same, he was just able to take out the skin from his face, and not even completely, I had to asist him with the rest, I managed to get almost all out but the feet are still my concern, this are a few pics from last night when I was helping him shed, I hope you can observe the feet and understand why I am worried that he might loose even the whole ¨hands¨
In this first pic his eyes are closed due to the flash, he usually has a bright and alert look!! This is during the shed....
And this is after I took aout all the skin I could:
Can you see the ¨hands¨ ????
In this first pic his eyes are closed due to the flash, he usually has a bright and alert look!! This is during the shed....
And this is after I took aout all the skin I could:
Can you see the ¨hands¨ ????
Harley_Davidson
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Oh Saskia! These are the first pics I have been able to see at work since the originals...my heart breaks for this poor baby...... they look a tiny bit better? You can see finger definition now. Maybe another humid hide and a bit more work? I know you have to be so careful at this point.
lukelightwalker
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Ohh Saskia. You are a special person to take on a Gecko in such bad shape. Good for you.
I rescued a guy about 8 months ago with shed problems as well. His problems with shed were so bad his vent, toes and eyes were fused shut because of it. He got a surgery to open the vent and the eyes did eventually open with succesive sheds. Unfortunately this is when we figured out both eyes were absessed out and he had a systemic infection, that just didn't seem to go away even with meds and vet help, that eventually took his life.
Although he was not suffering from MBD, so didn't seem so fragile as yours. Helping him with sheds, the toes eventually started to look normal, although he did lose some. With each and every shed as I help him with them he got better and better. He eventually in the end started having full body un assisted sheds.
Keep up the good work and know you are doing the right thing by helping him with his shed. Be gentle and with every shed he will likely start sheding better. Sorry I don't know much about the prognosis for recovery from MBD.
Ohh Saskia. You are a special person to take on a Gecko in such bad shape. Good for you.
I rescued a guy about 8 months ago with shed problems as well. His problems with shed were so bad his vent, toes and eyes were fused shut because of it. He got a surgery to open the vent and the eyes did eventually open with succesive sheds. Unfortunately this is when we figured out both eyes were absessed out and he had a systemic infection, that just didn't seem to go away even with meds and vet help, that eventually took his life.
Although he was not suffering from MBD, so didn't seem so fragile as yours. Helping him with sheds, the toes eventually started to look normal, although he did lose some. With each and every shed as I help him with them he got better and better. He eventually in the end started having full body un assisted sheds.
Keep up the good work and know you are doing the right thing by helping him with his shed. Be gentle and with every shed he will likely start sheding better. Sorry I don't know much about the prognosis for recovery from MBD.
Yoshi'smom
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Poor kid! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for him!
Debbie7054
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You're doing a brilliant job with him. I've got everything crossed for him his poor little feet are a real mess. I can't believe somebody would leave a gecko to suffer like that. He's so lucky that you saved him. I hope all that stuck shed starts to go soon so he can walk and enjoy life again.
Saskia
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Hello!
A little update:
I have noticed he is a tiny bit more active lately.... I want to believe he is feeling a bit better since he is coming out of his warm cave, I changed his water dish, because I had the feeling the other one was a bit too high for him to reach, I just put a small jar lid with water and oh surprise, he loves to SIT in there... the first time I thaught he was maybe stuck there (even if it is just 1/3 of an inch in high), and I took him out, but a little while after that we was sitting there again... that night I took him out to eat and put him back in his cave and he crawled out into his water dish... so I guess he likes to be a little wet, he puts his head on the edge and lays there... I imaginated he needed more humidity so I added another humid hide, a different one (the one I put before had the entrance hole on the top, I made him another one with a hole on the side, for it to be easier for him to walk right inside, and put it in a dark corner of his warm side, let´s see if he likes it, just did it now)...
I am going out of town for 2 days tonight, I know it´s not that much time but I am still concerned about him, I hope everything is ok when I get back, I´ll be counting the minutes, I just fed him, gave him 0,2ccs of water, and cleaned his tank, all of my other guys had a specially nutricious meal last night with roaches and grassoppers properly dusted with calcium and Reptivite, but they are all fat and healthy, and their tanks are very secure, so I have no worries for them, just this little guy, even as I just take him out to eat I am constantly checking on him (without touching or even opening his tank, just peeking and verifying he is ok), I´ll be very nervous to leave him alone for these couple of days...
Hope everything goes on ok!! He ate plenty today, everything is clean, and he has a new humid hide to crawl into if he wants to, I also put another water dish just in case he spills some water in his new found hot tub!!
Will keep you posted soon Thanks for asking for him (or her actually, I refer to him as a boy but he is unsexed and will remain unsexed for at least a couple more months)!!!
A little update:
I have noticed he is a tiny bit more active lately.... I want to believe he is feeling a bit better since he is coming out of his warm cave, I changed his water dish, because I had the feeling the other one was a bit too high for him to reach, I just put a small jar lid with water and oh surprise, he loves to SIT in there... the first time I thaught he was maybe stuck there (even if it is just 1/3 of an inch in high), and I took him out, but a little while after that we was sitting there again... that night I took him out to eat and put him back in his cave and he crawled out into his water dish... so I guess he likes to be a little wet, he puts his head on the edge and lays there... I imaginated he needed more humidity so I added another humid hide, a different one (the one I put before had the entrance hole on the top, I made him another one with a hole on the side, for it to be easier for him to walk right inside, and put it in a dark corner of his warm side, let´s see if he likes it, just did it now)...
I am going out of town for 2 days tonight, I know it´s not that much time but I am still concerned about him, I hope everything is ok when I get back, I´ll be counting the minutes, I just fed him, gave him 0,2ccs of water, and cleaned his tank, all of my other guys had a specially nutricious meal last night with roaches and grassoppers properly dusted with calcium and Reptivite, but they are all fat and healthy, and their tanks are very secure, so I have no worries for them, just this little guy, even as I just take him out to eat I am constantly checking on him (without touching or even opening his tank, just peeking and verifying he is ok), I´ll be very nervous to leave him alone for these couple of days...
Hope everything goes on ok!! He ate plenty today, everything is clean, and he has a new humid hide to crawl into if he wants to, I also put another water dish just in case he spills some water in his new found hot tub!!
Will keep you posted soon Thanks for asking for him (or her actually, I refer to him as a boy but he is unsexed and will remain unsexed for at least a couple more months)!!!
Harley_Davidson
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Have a safe trip Saskia and keep up the good work. Maybe his/her hot tub feels good on the feet and will help soak off some of the shed (fingers crossed).
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Yoshi'smom
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I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for the little one too, Saskia! Update us as soon as you can when you return! Have a nice trip!
Saskia
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Hello to all,
I had a problem in my trip and had to stay for 3 days instead of 2, and I should have stayed 4, but I drove 14 hours straight in the andes mountains just to get back as soon as possible (any sane person would have done in 2 days, but I wanted to get back home ASAP), but all the effort was worth nothing I got home on wednesday at 2:30am just to see him die, he died the moment I got home, I witnesed his last breath.
My heart is broken, I hadn't had the courage to enter GU to post this, after a 14 hour drive I couldn't sleep just thinking about him, when I finally did all I dreamed was that I could bring him back to life, I know it sounds incredibly cheesy but you have no idea how emotional I got, I hadn't cried like this in a long time, I feel guilty, I believe this maybe wouldn't have happened if I hadn't gone, I left on sunday night and came back on wednesday night... on sunday afternoon I left everything clean, plenty of water, good temps, him just fed, calcium dish, The worst part is that I can't explain what happened, because he honestly wasn't looking so bad! I mean, he was starting to be a little more active, his tail was thin but not skinny (I have seen a lot skinnier geckos), so I can't believe it was starvation, could it be possible it was dehydration?? I had just gave him water before I left and he was able to reach any of his 2 water dishes, but I never saw him drinking...
This year I rescued 4 geckos, 2 of them are happy, healthy animals that I brought back into life and are a part of my collection now, one died, but in that case I could see him getting worse by the day, in this case the worst is not knowing, not understanding, and of course feeling guilty because he wasn't doing so bad!!! I can't help believing that if I had been here maybe it wouldn't have happened, I asked my vet friend (the one who "referred" him to me) and he told me that he would have put him down from day one, but I just think he doesn't know much about geckos in general, I truly believed he had a chance.
The only person who got me to stop crying was my sister because she reminded me that I am 5 months pregnant and whatever I feel my baby feels too, so I have to put myself together, even my husband couldn't understand how was it possible that I could cry so much over a "lizard" that wasn't even mine, maybe pregnancy has made me more emotional than usual.
I really appreciate all of you caring about him, I felt I owed you an explanation, although just entering GU makes me sad right now, thanks for all the advice, and just for being there, no one in my family or friends group (even my gecko-friends) understands me right now, "it's no big deal" they say, "you can have another one".... anyways, I know I don't even have to explain how mad that kind of coment makes me, I know people here understand.
I'll probably won't be entering GU for a few days, I have tears in my eyes right now just to re-live the whole thing, but as I said before, I felt I owed you a closer, thanks to all of you that lived this with me, and sorry for being over dramatical.
I had a problem in my trip and had to stay for 3 days instead of 2, and I should have stayed 4, but I drove 14 hours straight in the andes mountains just to get back as soon as possible (any sane person would have done in 2 days, but I wanted to get back home ASAP), but all the effort was worth nothing I got home on wednesday at 2:30am just to see him die, he died the moment I got home, I witnesed his last breath.
My heart is broken, I hadn't had the courage to enter GU to post this, after a 14 hour drive I couldn't sleep just thinking about him, when I finally did all I dreamed was that I could bring him back to life, I know it sounds incredibly cheesy but you have no idea how emotional I got, I hadn't cried like this in a long time, I feel guilty, I believe this maybe wouldn't have happened if I hadn't gone, I left on sunday night and came back on wednesday night... on sunday afternoon I left everything clean, plenty of water, good temps, him just fed, calcium dish, The worst part is that I can't explain what happened, because he honestly wasn't looking so bad! I mean, he was starting to be a little more active, his tail was thin but not skinny (I have seen a lot skinnier geckos), so I can't believe it was starvation, could it be possible it was dehydration?? I had just gave him water before I left and he was able to reach any of his 2 water dishes, but I never saw him drinking...
This year I rescued 4 geckos, 2 of them are happy, healthy animals that I brought back into life and are a part of my collection now, one died, but in that case I could see him getting worse by the day, in this case the worst is not knowing, not understanding, and of course feeling guilty because he wasn't doing so bad!!! I can't help believing that if I had been here maybe it wouldn't have happened, I asked my vet friend (the one who "referred" him to me) and he told me that he would have put him down from day one, but I just think he doesn't know much about geckos in general, I truly believed he had a chance.
The only person who got me to stop crying was my sister because she reminded me that I am 5 months pregnant and whatever I feel my baby feels too, so I have to put myself together, even my husband couldn't understand how was it possible that I could cry so much over a "lizard" that wasn't even mine, maybe pregnancy has made me more emotional than usual.
I really appreciate all of you caring about him, I felt I owed you an explanation, although just entering GU makes me sad right now, thanks for all the advice, and just for being there, no one in my family or friends group (even my gecko-friends) understands me right now, "it's no big deal" they say, "you can have another one".... anyways, I know I don't even have to explain how mad that kind of coment makes me, I know people here understand.
I'll probably won't be entering GU for a few days, I have tears in my eyes right now just to re-live the whole thing, but as I said before, I felt I owed you a closer, thanks to all of you that lived this with me, and sorry for being over dramatical.
Riverside Reptiles
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Sorry to hear that the little guy didn't make it. It's never easy, especially when you put so much work into trying to get them better. But that's part of rescuing animals. It doesn't always work out the way we hope. At least you gave him a chance that he didn't have before.
cricket4u
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In most cases of advanced MBD the prognosis is poor unless they are under the care of the vet. Moderate to severe MBD should not be attempted to be treated at home. They will need blood work to check calcium level, kidney function and hydration status. Don't be hard on yourself, you had good intentions. Sorry for your loss.
Yoshi'smom
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This is sad... Poor little guy! At least his suffering is over. I'm glad you were able to give him the best last days of his life!
Elizabeth Freer
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Saskia ~
Please don't beat yourself up or be hard on yourself in any way over this rescue's passing. We all saw in what deplorable condition he arrived at your doorstep. What you DID do was give him a good chance at a life he never had with his former owner!!! His past life was really a crime. His front arms may never have straightened out to support his weight.
May he rest better now that he has known your loving care.
All the rescues you have described are luckier than my words can describe.
Congratulations upon being 5 months along with your very own baby. I hope that you'll begin a new thread here with pictures when the baby arrives That is super exciting.
Please don't beat yourself up or be hard on yourself in any way over this rescue's passing. We all saw in what deplorable condition he arrived at your doorstep. What you DID do was give him a good chance at a life he never had with his former owner!!! His past life was really a crime. His front arms may never have straightened out to support his weight.
May he rest better now that he has known your loving care.
All the rescues you have described are luckier than my words can describe.
Congratulations upon being 5 months along with your very own baby. I hope that you'll begin a new thread here with pictures when the baby arrives That is super exciting.