Leopard Gecko Neglected and Now Deformed and Underweight

n.brydges

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Another question!

In general (for all leopard geckos) what type(s) of calcium do they need? I thought I knew but since joining this forum I'm confused! What brands are the "best"? What about multivitamins? What kind of calcium should be kept in the tank at all times?

And for Stumpy, what would you recommend as being best in helping with his MBD? Does he need any special vitamins? Or more calcium than I would give the others?
 

cricket4u

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Another question!

In general (for all leopard geckos) what type(s) of calcium do they need? I thought I knew but since joining this forum I'm confused! What brands are the "best"? What about multivitamins? What kind of calcium should be kept in the tank at all times?

And for Stumpy, what would you recommend as being best in helping with his MBD? Does he need any special vitamins? Or more calcium than I would give the others?

Personally, I do not feel comfortable suggesting calcium with d3. I like zoo med the most due to the lower d3 content, however I use UVB instead. I do not like the use of multivitamin used frequently. You may want to wait for Elizabeth in regards to d3. On one knows how much they need, therefore it's a gamble. My suggestions may be too inconvenient for you.

It would be best to read as many threads as possible so that you can understand what's all the fuss about. Perhaps use the search button, type supplements and I'm sure you'll find lots of thread with opinions and information.
 
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Saskia

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I am SO happy to see this recovery story, I am in tears, it reminds me SO MUCH of a rescue of mine, also MBD, also so much stuck shed he couldn´t see, also deformed limbs, he was also even a hypo, and also there are no reptile veterinarians where I live because reptiles here are "ilegal" pets..... Mine didn´t make it, that´s why I am crying, I re-lived my rescue, so happy tu see stumpy looking so great.
I agree with cricket regarding suplementation, I only do it once a week or once every 2 weeks, I use all ZooMeds products (ReptiCalcium and Reptivite), I believe after Stumpy has gained strength in his bones he might need the same amount of calcium and vitamins as any other gecko, but keep in mind that MDB takes a long time to make a complete recovery (bone strength-wise), his limbs will always be deformed, this s a picture of my guy right when I got him:
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I still cry over him :cry:
 

n.brydges

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Poor guy! I once rescued another severely underweight gecko and she didn't make it either. Here's a pic of how she looked when I got her, her name was Tripp. Apparently she was housed with a few other geckos (not sure if they were male or female) but she wasn't getting any food. I really don't know the whole story or the people that did this to her. The people brought her to the pet store in town and told them they didn't want her anymore and my friend who works there asked me to take her.
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I brought her to the vets and it was sad but I knew more than the vet did about leopard geckos. We removed some crusty thing (that smelt very bad) from her upper lip, which I originally thought could have been mouth rot but who knows what it was! Sadly, she died shortly after we got home from the vets. I figured it was the stress of being poked at that finally got to her :( .

BUT! Update on Stumpy, today he ate 2 horn worms (they were fairly large but he seemed to manage them). He's doing so much better still very alert and responsive and his legs are getting stronger. He is starting to even use his more severely deformed front leg!

Still looking for specific types of vitamins or calcium (D3 or no D3?) that I should be ensuring he gets.

Thanks everyone!
 

XoVictoryXo

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oh those two stories are so heart wrenching I cant bear it. :(
I must think happy thoughts, YAY for progress with Stumpy eating!!
This is the kind of plain calcium without d3 i use. I lightly dust almost all their buggies with this one and leave it in a bottle cap in their cage. I dont dust every single buggy at every feeding as I make sure to gutload insects properly. I have seen calcium deposits on leos who have been given too much calcium... although not harmful its a bit unsightly- i would dust every insect in your case however- of a leo with mbd who is calcium deprived!
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this is the calcium with d3 i use to lightly dust insects once a week
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Elizabeth Freer

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BUT! Update on Stumpy, today he ate 2 horn worms (they were fairly large but he seemed to manage them). He's doing so much better still very alert and responsive and his legs are getting stronger. He is starting to even use his more severely deformed front leg!

Still looking for specific types of vitamins or calcium (D3 or no D3?) that I should be ensuring he gets.

Nice that you were able to get some hornworms...great for moisture...good for nutrition! Even better that Stumpy approves :D! I was hoping he would. Were you able to get some in Canada?

Good that XO pitched in with the calcium and vitamin info you were looking for.


As of today Stumpy weighs 40g! Woooohooooo

Soooo happy to hear that Stumpy's legs are gaining strength and that he's gaining weight. You are his angel, n.brydges!
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Another feeder: Silkworms ?

http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...feeding-issues/68584-silkworm-guidelines.html

Recommend purchasing the silkworms separately from the food. The worms in the cup do not do as well if ordered online and packaged together.

Source: http://www.mulberryfarms.com/Care-Ra...ps-FAQ-12.html


Source: http://www.coastalsilkworms.com/silkworm_care:
"Silkworms must be kept in a warm, dry environment. For optimal growth keep your silkworm's 70-85F temperature rage. Upon arrival, open any containers that contain silkworms. Dump the Silkworms into the bottom of a plastic box, or one of our silkworm keepers. Our plastic silkworm keepers are reusable and easy to clean.

If you ordered powdered mulberry food, prepare it upon arrival. Follow the directions on the food, or see cooking instructions below. Orders will be given food to eat during transit. You should feed all silkworms ASAP upon arrival. If you ordered pre-made mulberry food, it's "ready-to-feed". If you‘re using fresh mulberry leaves be sure to wash them before feeding. With the mulberry food, grate a thin layer over the top of the silkworms; we prefer the silkworm food grater for feeding out the silkworm food. Silkworms will immediately crawl up and start to feed on the food. With fresh mulberry leaves cover the silkworms with two layers of leaves.

Silkworms should be fed daily. If you're looking for rapid growth, feed twice a day. If you're looking to slow growth down, feed once every other day. Silkworms eat a lot of food, be prepared to have on hand food for the worms you have coming, with the correct amount of silkworm food or mulberry leaves when in season.

It's important to wash your hands before handling the silkworms and the mulberry food. Once you remove a silkworm from the colony do not place them back into the colony. This will increase your chances of introducing bacteria to your silkworm colony. We recommend you discarding any uneaten silkworms that are left in your animal's cage, if any! Over cleaning is a bad thing, and will lead to a high die off. We recommend keeping handling of the silkworms to a minimum to decrease your chances of a die off. For this reason we recommend you have a spare silkworm keeper to transfer the silkworms to when cleaning time comes. You should not clean out the silkworm keepers more then once a week, doing so will increase your chance of a high die off. In general we have found it best to keep all handling of the silkworms to a minimum at the same time keeping things clean."
 
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n.brydges

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He's pretty much the same. At a steady weight now hasn't gained much more since the last update. He seems to be doing just fine and being a happy gecko. He LOVES to eat, he practically lunges across his whole tank for a worm and he knows when I come home at night and turn the lights on that it's feeding time and he comes right out and stares at me through the glass. His hind legs are in awesome shape however his front legs are permanently deformed, but he seems to manage that just fine.

He seems to be out of the woods!
 

n.brydges

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Here are some update pictures for you all to see! I just looked back at the pictures I have of him from when I first got him and really just realized how much better he has gotten!
Here's a (reminder) picture of him when I first acquired him back at the end of April:
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And here is Stumpy today!:
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XoVictoryXo

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he looks great! so happy to see him! his cute lil face makes me so happy!
thank you for caring for this special lil guy i am so glad he is in good hands now :)
 

n.brydges

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Here's another update! He's just doing so fabulously!! He's got the biggest appetite out of all my babies too!

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This one is my favourite as you can see that he has a smiley face marking on his head :)
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