mushy poo???

[the funky gecko]

Hello. So this morning i found a mushy poo on a log in my tank. I have two geckos in the tank now, a female mack snow named fluffnut and what i beleive to be is the sick gecko a female tangerine named blaze. I also found some hair in the poo that didn't show in the pic. The reason why i think blaze did it is because she took a heart attack fall last night. She fell 4 feet after bouncing of some stuff and landed on carpet. Should i wait to she if she does it agian(pooping not falling) so i can send it to the vet to do a fecal sample or should i wait it out? Any help will be appreiated. I will post a pic soon.

 

[the funky gecko]

Here are the pics

 

[Geckologist.tj]

I see you've spent some time on this forum, and I would assume you are aware of recommended temperatures, substrates, thermometers etc. so I won't get into that except to say that if you're not following those guidelines, that could cause a fecal abnormality.

Normally I wouldn't advise anyone to wait to get a fecal test done, but in this instance, I'm not sure we can be certain which leo had the loose bowel movement. My advice would be to call a qualified vet and ask what you should do.

Also, I would highly suggest separating your leos so that #1) you can be sure which one had the loose stool and #2) if one does have an elevated parasitic load you may possibly be able to keep the other healthy.

 

[the funky gecko]

lucky for me i just got a new 10 gal. perfect for now. in march i will need to give it to my coming male but in tell then i will use it. and there is a exotic vet near where i live. thanks

 

[the funky gecko]

ok so i did some research and found out that blaze(the tangerine) is showing some symptoms of parasites. not accepting food, basking with legs all spread out and flattened and the poo pic doesn't show good but there is a little bit of blood. i will try to get blaze in the smaller tank as soon as i can.

 

[hmarie186]

I would treat both of them for parasites since they are sharing a cage, and thoroughly disinfect everything with a 10% bleach solution.

 

[Tamara]

I would treat both of them for parasites since they are sharing a cage, and thoroughly disinfect everything with a 10% bleach solution.

I would go and see a veterinarian before you start treatments for anything.., it can be very hard on your animals kidney's and liver so you wouldn't want to be doing it without first getting some proffesional medical advise.

 

[hmarie186]

I would go and see a veterinarian before you start treatments for anything.., it can be very hard on your animals kidney's and liver so you wouldn't want to be doing it without first getting some proffesional medical advise.

The vet visit was implied I meant instead of doing two fecals just do one and treat both since likely they both have something.

 

[Tamara]

Ah i see, sorry.

I don't know abouth having only one fecal done tough, i think it doesn't harm to have both done and be 100% sure abouth both of them.

 

[the funky gecko]

so here is my plan separate blaze and fluffnut, when blaze and fluffnut poop send it to do a fecal test and i might get some antibiotics for both just in case or if the vet says its ok, then keep watch over them and put them together again after a few months of healing. sound good? is there something i need to change? i will put blaze in the smaller tank sometime today or Friday. thank you for all the help you have done.

 

[the funky gecko]

oh and some of the problems blaze has had in the past is not wanting to eat much(i think its do to stress) and she has had problems with stuck shed on toes and not eating old shed(i think fluffnut ate it). if you think these are signs of something other than parasites please let me know. thanks

 

[Etienette]

The shed skin being stuck on the toes sometimes happens naturally, but you can sometimes avoid this by keeping a proper humidity in your Leo's tank(s). If it still happens despite proper humidity/temperatures, place her in a container that has been thoroughly hydrated with paper towels placed on the bottom of it. This will allow her a little 'personal time' to shed the left over skin off, and to give her a boost of humidity in general. I would recommend doing this for maybe an hour to two hours daily, until the access skin has been shed.

As for the refusal of eating, my male Leo - when he gets close to shedding, he won't eat. He will show interest but then turn his nose up at it. But directly after he has shed, and cleaned up the skin - he goes back to his normal eating habits a day later. As yours is a female, sometimes they will refuse to eat when they are ovulating. I've seen many discussions about female Leos refusing food for weeks on end due to such. But in the end, if you feel that your Leo has something wrong with her - call a professional or take her in to one to discuss things, where proper diagnoses can be made.

 

[the funky gecko]

Well i don't know if this is bad or not but her belly is a faint blue. I would try to take a pic but i don't know if it will work. Sould i get a fecal test or a visit with the vet to check blaze out or both. Some you seam very worried and some don't. On a scale of one to ten what would be my geckos health. One being it should be fine and ten being my gecko is going to die. Thanks

 

[Etienette]

Leos are known for their tendency to show their "insides" through their underbellies, so it might just be that. But as I stated above, if you feel like your Leos should be taken in to be seen by a professional - then do so. You are the only one who can make the final call, which could very well determine the outcomes of your Leos' lives. And unfortunately, a scaled assumption/estimate can't really be given by anyone on here.. Since going by words versus physical examination, is like being blind and trying to walk across a busy highway.

So if you personally feel scared and are questioning what you should do, try contacting a professional via phone first and discuss everything with them. Then go from there with what the professional at hand has said for you to do.

 

[hmarie186]

A veterinarian needs to judge your animals health, not an online forum. Please take Blaze in. You mention she fell 4 ft the other day so the blue could be some internal bruising. It's nothing to mess around with coupled with the diarrhea.

 

[the funky gecko]

i can't get her in today but i will get her in tomorrow.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

i can't get her in today but i will get her in tomorrow.

Can you bring along a fecal sample?

#2---Fecal Sample Collection Procedure
My exotics vet recommends:

1. Place a piece of clean plastic where your leo usually poops. If your gecko poops somewhere else, take the poop to the vet anyway. Some poop is better than no poop! (Thanks to TheOneBlueGecko - 25 July 2011)

2. As soon as your gecko has passed some poop and urates, but without physically touching the sample, place the feces and urates directly onto a clean plastic bottle cap. (Vet has fecal sample containers if you can stop by first.)

3. Then place the bottle cap with fecal sample directly into a plastic ziploc bag. (Do NOT use paper towels or newspaper because those will absorb some of the feces necessary for a proper culture.)

4. Refrigerate this sample...unless you are taking the sample to your vet immediately. Do NOT freeze it.

5. Take this fecal sample to your vet within 24 hours of collecting...the sooner the better!


[There are two types of fecals: direct smear and fecal float tests. For geckos, ask the vet whether both tests should be run.]

 

[the funky gecko]

well blaze pooped i have enough time to give a fecal sample to the vet. only one problem, the vet is the only exotic vet where i leave and the fecal sample is 30 dollars not 15 like i hoped. my friend does snakes and did some research and found out that it might be stress but ill do a fecal test just in case. wish me luck!

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

well blaze pooped i have enough time to give a fecal sample to the vet. only one problem, the vet is the only exotic vet where i leave and the fecal sample is 30 dollars not 15 like i hoped. my friend does snakes and did some research and found out that it might be stress but ill do a fecal test just in case. wish me luck!

Good wishes for all of you.

 

[Etienette]

Best of luck to you!