Help with Weight of my Leo please?
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kholtme
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I was the one who posted the thread about the self cleaning dubia container. It works great and makes cleaning effortless. I also have a red runner colony (turkistan roach), and care is the same for both. My self cleaning roach container wont work with red runners because they are tiny when they are babies and they would fall through the wholes and defeat the purpose. I havent had the red runners long enough to have to clean the container, but if you want to keep the eggs, i think taking a screen and shifting the poop out would be the easiest.
Making a container is simple! My self cleaning container does take some time to make and requires a drill.
Making a container is simple! My self cleaning container does take some time to make and requires a drill.
Elizabeth Freer
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Here's the link for Kyle's self cleaning dubia setup. Scroll to post #2 on this thread.
Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...ckets-blaptica-dubia-hornworms-silkworms.html
Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...ckets-blaptica-dubia-hornworms-silkworms.html
CWilson13
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Awesome! Thanks again for the info on your Dubia colony! I really think I will mimic your design once I get mine going. Luckily I already have all the tools needed, just need the totes and Dubias really.
CWilson13
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Also, later today I will be uploading a photo or two of Apollo in Hunter Mode. His death stare at the Phoenix Worms is just too good not to share
Sorry guys, having some car issues and have not been able to upload those photos as promised. I will try to do it tomorrow
amsdadtodd
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I love watching them hover over the dish before grabbing one, it reminds of myself in the produce section at the supermarket!
CWilson13
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The intensity is just too funny to me. He goes from being a lazy boy to Mr. Serious in no time at all. He even starts doing it as I am getting the worms ready for him. Staring through the glass of his tank. I was surprised yesterday though. He only ate 7 Supers. I may just have gotten used to him eating so many Phoenix worms. He eats 15 of the mediums with no trouble at all. In fact, I think he would eat more given the chance.
One question, even though this thread has kinda verged off topic as of late. With the Adult bearded dragon food, should I be crushing it up before giving it to the Supers? I found a bunch of still intact pellets in the container and wasn't sure they even touched them.
One question, even though this thread has kinda verged off topic as of late. With the Adult bearded dragon food, should I be crushing it up before giving it to the Supers? I found a bunch of still intact pellets in the container and wasn't sure they even touched them.
amsdadtodd
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I've never used supers, but I don't crush the food up for mealworms, so I should think the same would apply for supers. Of course, there is no harm in crushing it up, the only thing to be careful of is to keep it dry.
CWilson13
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The thing that shocked me was how huge the supers were. I had medium sized mealworms that I sadly didn't pay attention to during the last bit of a heat wave we had. Threw those out and got "Medium" Supers. They were nearly double the size of the mealworms. Just glad he likes them.
Thanks for the tip about moisture Todd, definitely didn't cross my mind. I will just keep up what I am doing for now. I put the Beardie food in and then 24hrs before I am going to feed him the Supers I add the slice or two of carrot and some shredded Collard/Mustard/Turnip greens. I am going to have to take out the leftover veggies when I dig them out for feeding. Keep the Beardie food drier that way.
Tomorrow is a Phoenix worm day so I am hoping to weigh him again before the feeding. Plus I am hoping he eats more than just a few.
Thanks for the tip about moisture Todd, definitely didn't cross my mind. I will just keep up what I am doing for now. I put the Beardie food in and then 24hrs before I am going to feed him the Supers I add the slice or two of carrot and some shredded Collard/Mustard/Turnip greens. I am going to have to take out the leftover veggies when I dig them out for feeding. Keep the Beardie food drier that way.
Tomorrow is a Phoenix worm day so I am hoping to weigh him again before the feeding. Plus I am hoping he eats more than just a few.
CWilson13
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So, I picked up some Hornworms for Apollo at the Manchester Expo. Also got to meet Aliza Sadly it got very crowded in there and I do not do well in crowds so I ended up leaving after just a couple hours of browsing.
Anyhow, along with the Hornworms I picked up the Zoo-Med Reptivite. Thought I had grabbed the No D3 one but alas... With D3. So, my questions are;
1. Should I dust the hornworms with anything (I have calcium, calcium with D3, reptivite with D3)
2. Is it ok to still use the Reptivite w/ D3 2x a week for Apollo since he is getting so much Calcium from his Primary food of Phoenix worms?
Sadly it got very crowded in there and I do not do well in crowds so I ended up leaving after just a couple hours of browsing. Anyhow, along with the Hornworms I picked up the Zoo-Med Reptivite. Thought I had grabbed the No D3 one but alas... With D3. So, my questions are;
1. Should I dust the hornworms with anything (I have calcium, calcium with D3, reptivite with D3)
2. Is it ok to still use the Reptivite w/ D3 2x a week for Apollo since he is getting so much Calcium from his Primary food of Phoenix worms?
Elizabeth Freer
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What about placing the carrots and shredded greens on a shallow lid? That will keep them away from the beardie food.
So, I picked up some Hornworms for Apollo at the Manchester Expo. Also got to meet Aliza
Anyhow, along with the Hornworms I picked up the Zoo-Med Reptivite. Thought I had grabbed the No D3 one but alas... With D3. So, my questions are;
1. Should I dust the hornworms with anything (I have calcium, calcium with D3, reptivite with D3)
2. Is it ok to still use the Reptivite w/ D3 2x a week for Apollo since he is getting so much Calcium from his Primary food of Phoenix worms?
Reptivite contains calcium too. However, I think using Reptivite 2x per week provides too many vitamins.
While feeding only the Phoenix worms (which don't eat) or the hornworms (which eat a special chow), I would very lightly dust some prey with D3 Reptivite 1x per week. When you move to a different feeder that is not calcium rich and that consumes the beardie food 24/7, then I'd dust with D3 Reptivite 2x per month and D3 calcium the other 2 weeks per month. I'd alternate:
- 1st week: D3 Reptivite
- 2nd week: D3 calcium
- 3rd week: D3 Reptivite
- 4th week: D3 calcium
Nice picking up some hornworms! If they are a good size to eat right now, are you set up to keep them @ about 55*F 24/7 so they don't grow huge?
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CWilson13
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Great idea about the separate lid for the carrots and greens. I wish I had thought of that lol Yeah after posting I started reading the percentages of everything in the Reptivite. For now I am giving Apollo the Phoenix Worms every other day (M, W, F) and on Sundays I give him Dusted Supers. I have been alternating between the Calcium W/ D3 and Calcium plain. So from now on I will switch out the plain Calcium for the Reptivite.
Yeah, I keep the Phoenix and Hornworms in a cooler with a couple cold packs. It took some work to get the temperature figured out. Luckily they both require the same temp.
Yeah, I keep the Phoenix and Hornworms in a cooler with a couple cold packs. It took some work to get the temperature figured out. Luckily they both require the same temp.
amsdadtodd
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Glad you got to get in Manchester, and to meet Aliza! And I hear you on the crowd thing, I manage to suck it up enough to get through and see and buy everything I hope to.
It looks like Elizabeth already answered your questions, and warned you about the hornworms growth rate. You'll be amazed at how fast your leo will gobble them up, they are my babies favorite food all around!
Todd
It looks like Elizabeth already answered your questions, and warned you about the hornworms growth rate. You'll be amazed at how fast your leo will gobble them up, they are my babies favorite food all around!
Todd
CWilson13
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It was a nice expo, luckily I got there early and beat the rush. Got almost everything I wanted. I say almost because, well I wanted so many of the Herps there... Lol
Yeah, I did see some of the BIG Hornworms, they looked like teal sausages :shock: Probably going to let a few get huge, see if I can breed those on a small scale. Gotta do a little more research on them first though. Going to give Apollo a couple tonight, see how that goes
Yeah, I did see some of the BIG Hornworms, they looked like teal sausages :shock: Probably going to let a few get huge, see if I can breed those on a small scale. Gotta do a little more research on them first though. Going to give Apollo a couple tonight, see how that goes
amsdadtodd
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I know someone who has started a small scale breeding project on the hornworms, I'll let you know how that goes, it's my understanding that it's rather difficult.
I'm sure Apollo will love them, once he gets his first taste!
I'm sure Apollo will love them, once he gets his first taste!