my leo hasnt pooped in about a week and is lethargic...

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schaffier58

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see the thing is though that ive been powdering their food since the first day i got them. Ill post a pic of her leg. It looks bad but she doesnt seem to really be bothered all that much by it20151120_183657.jpg
 
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I hope not... the signs of gout on my other baby were spots around her feet and white spots on her underbelly. So far im not seeing any of that thankfully. Keeping close watch though. She still has yet to poop, im hoping she does today for a fresh sample tommorow.
 
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Elizabeth Freer

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schaffier58 said:
see the thing is though that ive been powdering their food since the first day i got them. Ill post a pic of her leg. It looks bad but she doesnt seem to really be bothered all that much by itView attachment 37049
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I can see the swelling in that particular joint from your pic in post 11.

So you've been powdering with Flukers Calcium with D3 at every feeding? That's probably too much D3.

There is not much nutrition in those Fluker's gel orange cubes, just a minor calcium boost. Switching to a better dry diet for the bugs and worms will be much better. :)

Gout has many symptoms. :( Too much D3 can cause reverse MBD. Either way, gout or MBD can be fatal.

Let us know what the vet says.
 
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schaffier58

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So what if i powder with the calcium with d3 and the other woth phosphorus in it, would that be sufficient or should i go find a better powder all together ?
 
JessJohnson87

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I gut-load my roaches and crickets with Adult Bearded Dragon pellets made by Zoo Med along with some collards and carrots and they seem to love it. I use the Repashy Calcium Plus, its a multivitamin and calcium supplement in one. Most everyone else uses the Zoo Med Calcium with D3 and the Zoo Med Reptivite without D3.

Also I would only dust 2 times a week with the calcium powder. Like Elizabeth said, too much D3 can be a bad thing.
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It does suck. Things just happen and they always happen for a reason. I grew up being told that and I'm a firm believer that they either happen for good or bad reasons. I had my first ever leo pass away 10 or 11 years ago and it was hard, I loved that stinker to death. But it happened for a reason and I learned from it.
 
Elizabeth Freer

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So would you recommend a different powder as well as a different gut load ? if so what do you use for your leo ?
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I use Zoo Med's D3 Repti Calcium and Zoo Med's plain (no D3) Reptivite.

I used to feed the crickets Albers All Purpose Poultry Feed. Now I'm feeding the crickets Zoo Med's Natural Adult Bearded Dragon Food along with high calcium veggies on the side like collards. :)


schaffier58 said:
So what if i powder with the calcium with d3 and the other woth phosphorus in it, would that be sufficient or should i go find a better powder all together ?
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Use the Flukers D3 calcium until you run out and then switch to D3 Repti Calcium. Get the plain Reptivite now.

Once you start a nutritious dry diet, I'd lightly dust 1x per week with the Flukers and 2x per month (every other week) with the plain Reptivite. Consider dusting only some of the crickets per feeding, not all of them. Add a lid of chopped collards off to the side for a calcium boost and for moisture.

Reptivite does contain a small amount of phosphorus. However, since the suggested use is just a "wee bit" once a week or every other week, I think the phosphorus it contains is OK.

PS: Be sure to ask the vet about the causes of gout. :)
 
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Update : i woke up and checked on her and there's a healthy lookin poo she mustve done after i went to bed :). Just in time for the vet!
 
JessJohnson87

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Hey it's an exciting moment. First poo on her own without help :biggrin:

It's sad that I got excited about poop.....:shock:
 
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schaffier58

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Trust me it had me very excited seeing it haha. Well the results are in and my poor baby has mbd.. further examination of her bone density and her emflamation showed the deterioration of her bones. She gave mw a calcium glubionate to give her every day on top of 3 ccs of carni care. Check up probably back in 7-14 days to see her improvement. But her poo came back negative for parasites so im still thankfull and hopefull that she will pull through. I really appreciate your empathy and hope for my leo, all of you :D . Everythings a learning experience, im hoping i caught it early enough!
 
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schaffier58 said:
Trust me it had me very excited seeing it haha. Well the results are in and my poor baby has mbd.. further examination of her bone density and her emflamation showed the deterioration of her bones. She gave mw a calcium glubionate to give her every day on top of 3 ccs of carni care. Check up probably back in 7-14 days to see her improvement. But her poo came back negative for parasites so im still thankfull and hopefull that she will pull through. I really appreciate your empathy and hope for my leo, all of you :D . Everythings a learning experience, im hoping i caught it early enough!
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For what it's worth, I'm glad to hear you at least you know what you're dealing with. Thinking good thoughts for your leo!!! :cheer:
 
JessJohnson87

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So glad it's not gout. MBD is treatable, nothing can reverse any damage, but you can get it under control. Also glad she didn't have any parasites!
 
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