three monthes of lost, and now is back with terrible toes!

[thepianoguy]

so I was back to China two months ago, and the next day I arrived in China my dad called back,and" hey, your I just lost ur gecko, I found everywhere but not seeing it"...:? apparently the gecko does not like my dad that much!

Anyway yesterday my dad found it at the fridge's back and caught it. he pooped a little, (and dad use the gecko powder to him!no idea WHY!) but not eating, staying in a hide, doing nothing.

now I am giving some bathes, and just noticed the bad toes, the skins are just stucking on each other. how can I do to help?

 

[Lane's Reptiles]

If i were you, I would first make sure the Gecko can't escape again, Then Just give it some time to chill out, Leopard geckos Seem to stress out very easily (Personal Experience) So I would just wait about a week before doing anything again.

 

[acpart]

If there is stuck shed on the toes, soak the gecko in about 1/2" of warm water for a minute or so and then use your fingernails to get the shed off. It may take a few soaks, and can be spread out over time if it's stressing the gecko. There may be a little bleeding, and the tips of some of the toes may come off, but this is better than leaving the shed on.

Aliza

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Hi pianoguy ~

It's been a while!

Here's another way to treat stuck toe shed. You may need to leave the gecko in this humidity plastic box more than 30 minutes.

Be sure to monitor your gecko at all times during these procedures.

METHOD #1

• Use warm water. The water temperature should be no greater than 86*F/30*C, a leopard gecko's preferred body temperature.
• Take a plastic container (like a GladWare container) a little bigger than your gecko
• Poke holes in the lid so that your gecko can breathe
• Add a little water up to the belly of your leopard gecko. If your gecko is smaller, then use scrunched up paper towels that have been dampened or sprayed to maintain the necessary humidity. Include a rough rock or a small piece of cork back with the damp paper towels.
• Spray the insides of this container
• Add the gecko
• Snap on the lid
• Place this container inside your leo's enclosure and right next to the warm dry hide (right above the heat mat). OR Place this container near a lamp containing a low wattage bulb (15 watt or 25 watt incandescent bulb or similar wattage compact fluorescent). Water droplets should form on the insides of your plastic container!
• Monitor the temperature frequently
  [*]Monitor your gecko at all times
• Repeat this procedure, if necessary.

After 30 minutes, perhaps longer, remove the gecko and gently attempt to remove the stuck shed using a gentle rolling motion with a dry q-tip.

 

[thepianoguy]

thanks guys, I had removed most of the the sheds(actually, they are quite easy to do so)...but some toes.. I don't know if they are stucks sheds? or the toes, I will try the method Elizabeth had listed. thanks guys!

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

thanks guys, I had removed most of the the sheds(actually, they are quite easy to do so)...but some toes.. I don't know if they are stucks sheds? or the toes, I will try the method Elizabeth had listed. thanks guys!

You're welcome.

Save all the toes! :biggrin:

 

[thepianoguy]

You're welcome.

Save all the toes! :biggrin:

yup! and the little guy shed again!

some toes are purple:roll:dont know if they will turn good someday;-)

well, that it right now ha!

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

yup! and the little guy shed again!

some toes are purple:roll:dont know if they will turn good someday;-)

well, that it right now ha!

Is there any stuck shed remaining that's restricting blood flow on those purple toes?

Are you keeping one warm hide moist 24/7?

 

[thepianoguy]

Is there any stuck shed remaining that's restricting blood flow on those purple toes?

Are you keeping one warm hide moist 24/7?

after a new shed, there is some stuck sheds, I am working on my best to try to get them off, on of them seems to be stucking and what ever method I use, its not going off...

thinking its gonna lose that nail though, and one thing, some toes don't eve feel on my hand(are they dead?) when she tries to run over my hand!

what can I help?

and yup, theres a moist hide, and I will reconstruct the whole tank(it cracked!)

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

after a new shed, there is some stuck sheds, I am working on my best to try to get them off, on of them seems to be stucking and what ever method I use, its not going off...

thinking its gonna lose that nail though, and one thing, some toes don't eve feel on my hand(are they dead?) when she tries to run over my hand!

what can I help?

and yup, theres a moist hide, and I will reconstruct the whole tank(it cracked!)

It seems like dead toes would touch whatever surface your leo walks upon unless they are significantly shorter than the original toes.

Did you ever get all the stuck shed removed before?

Is the moist hide on the warm side and moist 24/7?

What brand multivitamins and D3 calcium does she get? How often?

Oops! How did the tank crack?

 

[thepianoguy]

not the tank cracked but the zoomed clays cracked...

since the tank is really a mess now, I try to keep this organized...

first, the moist hide,(yes, before, not now, it was, idk, cracked? I guess?) I do have a, um, a not-moist-but humid hide above the warm one though...(I know)

its repashy thingy, I feed it to the gecko dusted every day.
wait, that repashy thingy is gonna be due this month!!!

I will continue with zoomed calcium later I got some thing else.

now I only feed him crickets, they are gutloaded.

yes, I donno how the heck he has trouble everytime even I put she in a moist hide every time she sheds:?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

not the tank cracked but the zoomed clays cracked...

since the tank is really a mess now, I try to keep this organized...

first, the moist hide,(yes, before, not now, it was, idk, cracked? I guess?) I do have a, um, a not-moist-but humid hide above the warm one though...(I know)

its repashy thingy, I feed it to the gecko dusted every day.
wait, that repashy thingy is gonna be due this month!!!

I will continue with zoomed calcium later I got some thing else

now I only feed him crickets, they are gutloaded.

yes, I donno how the heck he has trouble everytime even I put she in a moist hide every time she sheds:?

I see now, sorta.

These are my suggestions.

• It's really important for a leo to have a warm moist hide as close to 24/7 as you can. If your room humidity ranges from 40-50% +, then those guidelines can be somewhat flexible. Leos also use their warm humid hides to keep their bodies hydrated between sheds.
• Be sure that your leo's crickets eat well. What do you feed them? Add collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, and pesticide-free dandelion flowers/greens to their diets.
• When your Repashy Calcium Plus expires are you interested in switching to Zoo Med supplements?

Can you make a temporary warm humid hide until you get things sorted out? Improving your leo's shed is really worth your efforts.

 

[thepianoguy]

I know it now, alright...

so yeah, the leo is eating good, the crikets eats, apple, oranges, some bearded dragon foods(that you had recommended last time, I forgot what it calls)

I will make one asap for leo

 

[thepianoguy]

so okay, emm... how am I supposed to say this?

the toes,(I am trying it last time) seems extremely thin? (the hack?) and looks weak(man...)
the tails are getting fater, she looks quite energetic.

as to rebuild the home, I was thinking to use the carboard(a new house) or shall I keep the ten gallon but just to make another layer of underground? maybe?

as I said, that repashy is out of date... I want to buy another two set(multivit) and a set for zoomed calcium?

don't wanna repashy anymore, too expensive stuff.
what do u recommend? I do have the thing left from national geography calcium d3?




OH NOOOOO!!!!!

one of the toes(stuck shed) i removed a bit, and it starts to BLEED! the gecko was moving struggling from my hand like CRAZY!!!!

what can i do? am i going to vanish her life????

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

so okay, emm... how am I supposed to say this?

the toes,(I am trying it last time) seems extremely thin? (the hack?) and looks weak(man...)
the tails are getting fater, she looks quite energetic.

as to rebuild the home, I was thinking to use the carboard(a new house) or shall I keep the ten gallon but just to make another layer of underground? maybe?

as I said, that repashy is out of date... I want to buy another two set(multivit) and a set for zoomed calcium?

don't wanna repashy anymore, too expensive stuff.
what do u recommend? I do have the thing left from national geography calcium d3?




OH NOOOOO!!!!!

one of the toes(stuck shed) i removed a bit, and it starts to BLEED! the gecko was moving struggling from my hand like CRAZY!!!!

what can i do? am i going to vanish her life????

Has your leo settled down? Is she in a 10 gallon?

I would NOT use cardboard. If she needs warm dry and cool dry hides, make them out of plastic containers like the kind Cool Whip comes in.

When you help her toes out make sure she's been in a Humidity Hide each time before you try.

Make sure her injured toes stay clean and dry. You don't want any of them getting infected.

I recommend both these powders:

• Zoo Med Repti Calcium with D3
• Zoo Med Reptivite multivitamins without D3

 

[thepianoguy]

Has your leo settled down? Is she in a 10 gallon?

I would NOT use cardboard. If she needs warm dry and cool dry hides, make them out of plastic containers like the kind Cool Whip comes in.

When you help her toes out make sure she's been in a Humidity Hide each time before you try.

Make sure her injured toes stay clean and dry. You don't want any of them getting infected.

I recommend both these powders:

• Zoo Med Repti Calcium with D3
• Zoo Med Reptivite multivitamins without D3

oh okay thanks for the info for calcium and stuff.

so here it goes, right, the gecko's toe seems to be better, not bleeding anymore! but(why is there no skin???)

so ugh.. I am kind of confused, first:

u said that everytime to make sure shes in her humid hide(wet) before I help her toes.

but what about the bloody toe? dry? wet? a bath? thanks!




and here is what happened basically over this week.


Saturday: bought crickets

sunday: checked on leopard gecko and feed her

Monday: feed leos noticing half of the cricket populations are down

Tuesday: Keep feeding, while bloody things happened

Wednesday: checking on gecko, better now
FUTURE:
Thursday: no feeding

Friday: a really large brown cricket

Saturday: buying crickets


tank info:

1 hot side
1 hot humid side
1 constructing waterbowl

too much ramdom poop(will pick up later)
dry in basic areas.

1 humid hide(making still)

 

[thepianoguy]

emergency!!!! the gecko toes are BLACK NOW!!!!!

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

oh okay thanks for the info for calcium and stuff.

so here it goes, right, the gecko's toe seems to be better, not bleeding anymore! but(why is there no skin???)

so ugh.. I am kind of confused, first:

u said that everytime to make sure shes in her humid hide(wet) before I help her toes.

but what about the bloody toe? dry? wet? a bath? thanks!

emergency!!!! the gecko toes are BLACK NOW!!!!!

• Are you saying the bone shows on that toe?
• A warm humid hide will not be "enough" once a leo has retained shed. In that case, follow the suggestions on post 4 of the Leo Guidelines. The numbers are on the left.

Black toes are dead toes. Stuck shed has cut off blood flow to them. They may fall off, but it's best to seek vet assistance.

How many toes are we talking about?

It IS best to always soak the toes or the unshed skin "sections" prior to attempts to remove retained shed. However, when there is bleeding or an injury to the skin like a cut or a scrape, keeping the skin clean and dry is the only way to for the injury to heal. Hopefully new skin will grow.

 

[thepianoguy]

sorry to confuse u,

so I had the moist hide now(us, very very moist) and it may/not go in there BUT if I really need to get the toes working, then I will stuff her inside.

so, yeah, I guess we are talking about a lot of different toes!

there are two are black, I removed the black stuck shed, but it seems like normal inside the skin??? I am quite confused...

so hopefully shes okay.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

sorry to confuse u,

so I had the moist hide now(us, very very moist) and it may/not go in there BUT if I really need to get the toes working, then I will stuff her inside.

so, yeah, I guess we are talking about a lot of different toes!

there are two are black, I removed the black stuck shed, but it seems like normal inside the skin??? I am quite confused...

so hopefully shes okay.

That's OK, pianoguy.

It sounds like you found healthy skin underneath the black stuck shed on both those formerly black toes. Is that correct?

You don't want the warm "moist" hide soggy.