The mysterious strange poop. URGENT

RachLovesNorbert

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T-Rex Leopard Gecko Dust ICB ingredients include vitamin D and vitamin A acetate, but not how much. :( A "Vitamin Premix" is also listed. The front says: Repashy's Superfoods Leopard Gecko Calcium Plus.

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A leo produces feces, urates, and urine. The yellow stain on the paper towel is urine. Excessive supplements MIGHT be why his urates are yellow/orange.

The urates should be pure white.

Instead of dusting with your T-Rex Leopard Gecko Dust at every feeding, try dusting Norbert's prey with the T-Rex vitamins just 1x per week. See if the urates are white. If that works, then get NOW plain calcium carbonate from a health foods store. Lightly dust with NOW 1x per week as well.

/\ It's really important to try that! Too many vitamins could damage Norbert's kidneys and liver.

I didn't dust his food for about a week. The poop is starting to look normal again!!! :) Should I go back to dusting in multivitamins or pure calcium?
 

Elizabeth Freer

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I didn't dust his food for about a week. The poop is starting to look normal again!!! :) Should I go back to dusting in multivitamins or pure calcium?
Thank you.

How do Norbert's urates look now? What color are they?

(I'm going to be mostly offline very soon. My laptop has to go in for repairs.)
 
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Elizabeth Freer

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They look normal white with a very tiny tint of orange. The last one was pure white. Should I feed him multivitamins still?

Thanks. Pure white urates are just what we want!!

Now do this:
  • at 1 feeding per week lightly dust with your multivitamins
  • at 1 feeding per week lightly dust with plain (no D3) calcium carbonate
Monitor the color of the urates. See whether the urates stay pure white.
 
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RachLovesNorbert

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It looks REALLY normal now!!! :) Thank you SOOOO much!!! :)

I also have another question... he isn't eating now!!! I'm really scared!!! It's been about 3-4 days, and Norbert hasn't eaten for that long. Do you have any suggestions?
He also was trying to burrow under his fleece hide, NOT normal at all. I'm really nervous! Is there anything I can do to help him eat and stop acting strange?
 

PoppyDear

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He might just want to burrow! If your temps are correct and all other husbandry is well, then maybe try switching up he contents of the tank in case of boredom. Rearrange hides, add new ones, etc. He might be just being a leo! ;-) A bigger tank never hurts either!

As for not eating, don't worry too much, yet. I feed my adults every 3 days, right now they eat every 4-5 and not much, I suspect they are ovulating, annoying! At least males don't have to worry about that! Make sure the poop looks normal and he maintains a relatively steady weight. You can also try different insects. But if he is healthy in other aspects and not drastically loosing weight, he should be okay and start eating soon.
 

RachLovesNorbert

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Okay! :) Do you know of any fun products a reptile brand has? Things that I could put in Norbert's tank? Thank you SO much!!!


What other insects could I feed him? I have crickets and mealworms currently. Speaking of crickets, do you know of a really cheap place/websites online that sell feedr insects? I'm trying to find out the cheapest places for insects.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :cheer:
 

Zux

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In terms of 'fun' Reptiles dont really understand the concept as we do. What is commonly termed as enrichment however is always good and to be encouraged.

Generally speaking doing anything you can to create a more interesting / varied and natural environment would be stimulating for your Gecko, I try to break up the Geckos line of sight within the enclosure by using rock piles, desert plants (succulents) and natural slate, as the Gecko moves around it allows them to feel unsure as to what is out of their LoS and helps them forget the limits of their environment. That will prove challenging in such a small 'tank' though, it would be a great idea to save the cash and upgrade him to as large an enclosure as you possibly can, they are very intelligent, active Geckos and will use every bit of space we afford them.

Regarding Dietary Variety you can feed them pretty much anything widely sold as a feeder, I feed multiple species of Roach as the basis of the diet and supplement that further with various hard/soft bodied worms, Locusts, Isopods and Crickets.
 
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PoppyDear

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Okay! :) Do you know of any fun products a reptile brand has? Things that I could put in Norbert's tank? Thank you SO much!!!


What other insects could I feed him? I have crickets and mealworms currently. Speaking of crickets, do you know of a really cheap place/websites online that sell feedr insects? I'm trying to find out the cheapest places for insects.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :cheer:

Sounds like the other member has most of your concerns covered! Although I would reccomend some local places to purchase live feeders. See if you have local petshops around (I have two that provide crickets for ten cents a piece and also sell roaches) or advertisements for at home breeders. Pangea also is a good place to buy crickets in bulk and for cheap.

There are also crickets for sale on Fluker's website, here Home - Live Feeder Crickets Dubia Roaches Superworms Mealworms, Wax Worms, Phoenix Worms Shipped and other websites. I even believe Amazon carries them. But if you don't want to order online, local petstores or home breeders are your best bet. Might I suggest breeding crickets? I have successfully raised a batch, though it takes patience! If you'd like more info, just ask!

Good luck!
 

RachLovesNorbert

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I have a question about Norbert... Here is a symptom list...
- Not eating
- darkening in color
- Weird black chapped looking things around his nostrils
- Strange splotches on the paper towel in the moist hide... photo 2-3.jpgphoto 3.JPGphoto 1-5_kindlephoto-84900958.jpg

What is wrong? Thank you in advance! :)
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Okay! :) So this thread for ANYTHING health-related? Should I repost a new symptoms list on this thread?

That's correct. :)

I have a question about Norbert... Here is a symptom list...
- Not eating
- darkening in color
- Weird black chapped looking things around his nostrils
- Strange splotches on the paper towel in the moist hide... View attachment 41568View attachment 41569View attachment 41570

What is wrong? Thank you in advance! :)
3-4 days without eating is usually nothing to be concerned about.

How does his belly feel?

Has Norbert had well-formed poops? Maybe the staining on the paper towel is diarrhea?

Does Norbert's nose seem "rough", not smooth?
 
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RachLovesNorbert

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OK! Phew!! I was SO scared about his not eating!! His skin is really dark, not normal.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with Hus stomach. How should it feel?

He poops in one area only, the paper towel had yellowish-greenish stains on it, no diarrhea.

He isn't pooping because he isn't eating, but before they looked perfect.

His nose feels smooth to me. ;)

I hope this helps!!!!
 

PoppyDear

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As for the stains, have you any calcium or stains on the substrate? With the paper towels being moist, mine tend to walk through calcium left on the substrate by insects or in their mealworm bowl and the calcium leaves orange stains. Other times they walk through their poop and leave a little on the paper towel, unfortunately!
 
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