My Eublepharis hardwickii (pictures and care link)

rhaco

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Well...yeah. It's undeniable that they share a few characteristics with the Fattails.
The banding, the more compact body structure, the dark eyes. Even their husbandry is similar.
But when I look at their faces, all I see is a Leopard Gecko!
Some people seem to think that they look too different from the other Eublepharis species. And one probably has to admit that they look the most different from the "classic Leopard Gecko".
But they were the first species of the Eublepharis genus that was desribed by Gray, 1827.
 

rhaco

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Time for another round of update pictures of the Eublepharis hardwickii sisters at 15 months of age.
At this time of the year I chose an autumn themed background again.

HW-001 15 months.jpg

HW-002 15 months.jpg

The leaves I used might not have been the best choice because now the background is more colorful than the animals :roll:
But for this portrait it worked fine I think:

HW autumn portrait.jpg
 

rhaco

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This girl hatched 500 days ago.
The changes in pattern are moderate with this species compared to the other Eublepharis species.

Hardwickii 500 days.jpg
 

rhaco

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Sorry for neglecting this thread. But all my geckos were in hibernartion and they tend to hibernate quite long (>100 days). They are all awake and eating again. I promise I’ll take and post some new pictures soon.
Until then I show some macro shots from last season that I haven’t posted here:


Scale structure comparison Hardwickii vs. Macularius
Hardwickii Macularius Skin.jpg
Hardwickii has a lot more of the large dorsal tubercle scales. The space between the tubercles is smaller than the tubercles themselves as they are sitting right next to each other.

The Macularius tubercles are smaller than the space between them as they have numerous smaller scales between them.


Claw close up:
Hardwickii Claw.jpg
Eublepharis hardwickii claws are a little longer and even sharper than Macularius’ claws.


Hardwickii portrait:
Portrait Hardwickii.jpg
 

rhaco

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After I had a lot of problems with my incubator this season and lost 8 out of 12 eggs, I almost lost hope for the remaining eggs. My female laid these eggs on 28th of May...
Hardwickii Eggs.jpg

...and the one remaining egg from this clutch finally hatched after 73 days last Sunday:
HW-003 hatchling.jpg

HW-003 day 1.jpg

HW-003 closeup.jpg

HW-003 portrait.jpg

Let's hope that the remaining 3 eggs will survive as well so I can provide you loyal followers of this thread with a lot of new baby Hardwickii pictures!
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Let's hope that the remaining 3 eggs will survive as well so I can provide you loyal followers of this thread with a lot of new baby Hardwickii pictures!
I'm sorry that you had significant losses with your E. hardwickii this season, Johannes, due to incubator malfunctions!

I, too, hope your remaining 3 eggs will produce viable hatchlings! I have a feeling WE are in your loop. :biggrin:
 

rhaco

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Here comes the update at one week of age.
What a difference a shed makes.
Perfect contrast!

HW-003 1 week.jpg

HW-003 one week.jpg
 

rhaco

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Today the next Hardwickii Baby hatched. This one took 67 days of incubation.
HW-004 hatchling.jpg

HW-004 day 1.jpg

It's a chunky one with 4.2g right out of the egg:
HW-004 portrait.jpg

HW-004 tongue.jpg
 

rhaco

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The second Eublepharis hardwickii hatchling of the season is one week old now and had its first shed as well.

HW-004 shed 1wk.jpg
 

rhaco

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The last Eublepharis hardwickii hatchling of the year is out of the egg.
69 days of incubation. 4,1g like its sibling.

So in the end it was still a successful season. I’ll be pretty busy taking those update pictures over the next months...

HW-006  hatchling.jpg

HW-006  day 1.jpg

HW-006  portrait.jpg
 

Gekkotan

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Congrats rhaco, nice animal. Let me ask you something: do you keep all of them and track their sexes? I have read that E. hardwickii and E. fuscus are more tricky to get males from thant other Eublepharis species. Seems that males need to be incubated in a more exact temperature. Have you checked this?
 

rhaco

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Congrats rhaco, nice animal. Let me ask you something: do you keep all of them and track their sexes? I have read that E. hardwickii and E. fuscus are more tricky to get males from thant other Eublepharis species. Seems that males need to be incubated in a more exact temperature. Have you checked this?

Yeah, it’s a big debate how temperature-dependent sex determination works with Hardwickii (and Fuscus).
US breeders seem to have more problems hatching males. Some say TSD doesn’t work at all with Hardwickii.
My experience is too little on this. There are some breeders over here in Europe that seem to be very successful hatching male Hardwickii by incubating at 32°C.
My plan was to proof that this year. But my incubator is very old and had some very bad temperature spikes >35°C. That’s why I lost 8 out of 12 eggs this season.
At the end I pulled all the remaining eggs and finished incubation at room temperature.

I like to keep my hatchlings as long as possible.
To document their development and to know their sex.
We’ll see how my ratio is this year with those incubation temperatures fluctuating from 26 to 35°C…:scratchhead:

HW-004 dad.jpg
 

Gekkotan

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Nice, thanks fo your answer. I perceive the same with these european breeders. Even I am not in EU, I often check european classifieds to see whats new and on, and I always see collections overcrowded with females of these species and less than a half dozen breeders that maybe cracked up these and sells only-male or high-male stock. Just wanted to know if incubating temperature info on fuscus and hardwickii are being spread.
 

rhaco

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Well, the info is out there.
The guys from BION Terrarium Center mention the 32°C incubation temperature to get males on their website and in a YouTube video.
Like I said, I have yet to successfully prove that temperature. But maybe other breeders should try it too.


While we’re at it, here come some more Update photos of this years (still unsexed) hatchlings:

HW-003 at one month of age:
HW-003 1 month.jpg

The newest ones after their first shed:
HW-005 1 week.jpg

HW-006 1 week.jpg
 

rhaco

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Sorry Elizabeth. Forgot to post this ones' update here.

HW-004 at one month of age.
With a weight of 9.8g it already more than doubled its birthweight


HW-004 1 month.jpg
 
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