Questions on keeping and feeding Lygodactylus Williamsi.

Gardener

New member
Hello.
I live in Ukraine. Therefore, English only with the help of Google translator. I am sorry.
Please tell me what type of shelter is suitable for Lygodactylus Williamsi?
What types of Repashy or Pangea food will work best?
What vitamins to use? Thanks.
P.S. I study the forum, but very slowly, unfortunately.
 

acpart

Active member
L williamsi care:
vertical tank (30x30x45 cm is good) with real or fake plants so the gecko can climb and hide
UVB light and additional hotter light for basking and heat
Feed any kind of Repashy or Pangea (or any other crested gecko diet) 2-3 times a week
Feed small crickets dusted with calcium and vitamin D3 2-3 times a week.
I use Repashy Calcium Plus for the crickets. The fruit food also has the necessary supplements.

Aliza
 

Sg612

Member
L williamsi care:
vertical tank (30x30x45 cm is good) with real or fake plants so the gecko can climb and hide
UVB light and additional hotter light for basking and heat
Feed any kind of Repashy or Pangea (or any other crested gecko diet) 2-3 times a week
Feed small crickets dusted with calcium and vitamin D3 2-3 times a week.
I use Repashy Calcium Plus for the crickets. The fruit food also has the necessary supplements.

Aliza
You dust with D3 and use UVB?
 

Gardener

New member
L williamsi care:
vertical tank (30x30x45 cm is good) with real or fake plants so the gecko can climb and hide
UVB light and additional hotter light for basking and heat
Feed any kind of Repashy or Pangea (or any other crested gecko diet) 2-3 times a week
Feed small crickets dusted with calcium and vitamin D3 2-3 times a week.
I use Repashy Calcium Plus for the crickets. The fruit food also has the necessary supplements.

Aliza

Thanks for the answer.
I'm not sure that Google will translate correctly, but I will try to put the questions on points.
1.
Exo Terra 12 ”x 12” x 18 ”will be used as the terrarium.
Main light: Exo Terra Reptile UVB100 13W + Exo Terra Natural Light 13W.
Spot warming: Exo Terra Daylight Basking Spot 25W.
Night heating: Exo Terra Heat Wave Rainforest 8 "x 8" 4W. (It will be installed under the bottom of the terrarium in the corner. I think this will create a temperature gradient.)
This is what is available to me.
2.
Feed:
Repashy or Pangea is not for sale in Ukraine.
But I have friends in Los Angeles and they can buy this food for me. They ask for the exact name. I have no experience with this feed.
I chose these:
REPASHY Crested Gecko MRP
REPASHY SuperCal MeD
Pangea Gecko Diet Breeding Formula
Is this a good choice? If not, please tell me how it is correct?
Also available to me such live food objects:
Zophobas morio, Tenebrio molitor, Drosophila hydei, Blaptika dubia, white lice, colembola. These species go through a full cycle in my home.
(I do not know how to catch small Blaptika dubia, which I can catch already large for my Lepidodactylus lugubris, I think they will be large for L williamsi. (If someone knows the method of catching small Blaptika dubia please tell me.)
3.
Shelter:
Is it possible to use bamboo segments for shelter? (As for Phelsuma). If so, how to install them? Vertically, horizontally or at an angle? What is the inner diameter and how long should these segments have?
Thank you with respect.
 

acpart

Active member
You dust with D3 and use UVB?

Since I don't know for sure how much UVB the light is putting out (though I change them every 6 months or so) and I don't know how much CGD the gecko is eating, and I don't know if the gecko is getting to the crickets before they groom the supplement off, I figure that by doing all 3, one way or another the gecko will get supplementation.

Aliza
 

acpart

Active member
Thanks for the answer.
I'm not sure that Google will translate correctly, but I will try to put the questions on points.
1.
Exo Terra 12 ”x 12” x 18 ”will be used as the terrarium.
Main light: Exo Terra Reptile UVB100 13W + Exo Terra Natural Light 13W.
Spot warming: Exo Terra Daylight Basking Spot 25W.
Night heating: Exo Terra Heat Wave Rainforest 8 "x 8" 4W. (It will be installed under the bottom of the terrarium in the corner. I think this will create a temperature gradient.)
This is what is available to me.
2.
Feed:
Repashy or Pangea is not for sale in Ukraine.
But I have friends in Los Angeles and they can buy this food for me. They ask for the exact name. I have no experience with this feed.
I chose these:
REPASHY Crested Gecko MRP
REPASHY SuperCal MeD
Pangea Gecko Diet Breeding Formula
Is this a good choice? If not, please tell me how it is correct?
Also available to me such live food objects:
Zophobas morio, Tenebrio molitor, Drosophila hydei, Blaptika dubia, white lice, colembola. These species go through a full cycle in my home.
(I do not know how to catch small Blaptika dubia, which I can catch already large for my Lepidodactylus lugubris, I think they will be large for L williamsi. (If someone knows the method of catching small Blaptika dubia please tell me.)
3.
Shelter:
Is it possible to use bamboo segments for shelter? (As for Phelsuma). If so, how to install them? Vertically, horizontally or at an angle? What is the inner diameter and how long should these segments have?
Thank you with respect.

The cage sounds good.
The smaller species, particularly the colembola and Drosophila hydei may actually be a bit too small for this species. I feed mine 1/4" crickets successfully, so if you can use equivalent sized Blaptika dubia, you may not need the smaller ones. Unless you can keep them in a bowl, the Tenebrio monitor may escape and hide. I have had more success with all my geckos with the Pangea fruit flavors: watermelon, fig and apricot (though my geckos don't really like the apricot). I think the day geckos will prefer fruit flavors.
I usually install one piece of bamboo horizontally near the top under the basking light so the gecko can sit up there and be warm. The other pieces can be installed at different angles to make things interesting. These geckos do like to feel comfortable hiding and sometimes only being able to hide in the bamboo means they won't bask. Consider some kind of planting in the enclosure, adding a tall potted plant (like sansevieria) or a creeping plant (like pothos --Epipremnum aureus) or at least some fake plants.

Aliza
 

Elizabeth Freer

Active member
1. Exo Terra Reptile UVB100 13W

2. If someone knows the method of catching small Blaptika dubia please tell me.

3. What say about vitamins?

1. Exo Terra's UVB bulbs aren't very good. They don't provide much UVB at all. :(
Have you access to Zoo Med's UVB compact fluorescent bulbs in the Ukraine or to Arcadia's UVB compact fluorescent bulbs?​

2. Do you have spoons one uses for measuring ingredients when cooking? Those "cupped" spoons are good for catching the smallest Blaptika dubia.
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3. Can you buy Nutrobal multivitamins and Calci Dust (plain calcium carbonate) in your country?
 
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Gardener

New member
Unfortunately, only Exo Terra lamps or Chinese without a name are available to me.
Maybe I could ask my friends in America to buy a good lamp, but I need to know the exact name.
Can you specify the exact name?
Thank. Regards, Maxim.
 

Elizabeth Freer

Active member
Unfortunately, only Exo Terra lamps or Chinese without a name are available to me.
Maybe I could ask my friends in America to buy a good lamp, but I need to know the exact name.
Can you specify the exact name?
Thank. Regards, Maxim.

Hi Maxim ~

Here's the Zoo Med bulb that will probably be good for an Exo Terra 12 x 12 x 18 inch high enclosure. This Zoo Med bulb puts out reliable UVB.

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Zoo Med Reptisun 5.0 UVB mini compact fluorescent bulb - 13 watts
Replace this bulb every year. The UVB rays get weak over time.

Screw that bulb into either a 5.5 or an 8.5 inch diameter Fluker's fixture.
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Fluker's 5.5 inch diameter fixture

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Fluker's 8.5 inch diameter fixture

Maybe those same fixtures are available without dimmers (rheostats)?
 
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Gardener

New member
Thank you very much!
Unfortunately in my country I can only buy very primitive vitamins. I'll try to buy in America.
I want to ask: If you give good vitamins (which ones?) Then how many hours should the lamp Zoo Med Reptisun 5.0 UVB shine?
Thank.
 

Elizabeth Freer

Active member
Thank you very much!
Unfortunately in my country I can only buy very primitive vitamins. I'll try to buy in America.
I want to ask: If you give good vitamins (which ones?) Then how many hours should the lamp Zoo Med Reptisun 5.0 UVB shine?

Thank.

You are welcome.

/\ Please re-check post 8. I added a picture of the measuring spoons I use to catch Blaptika dubia.

I have never bred Lygodactylus williamsi. UVB lighting can be tricky. Fran Baines (a lighting "guru" and vet from the UK) recommends a backup dose of vitamin D3 @ 1 feeding per month even when using UVB.

Maybe you can get Repashy's Calcium Plus from your friends in America. acpart (Aliza) uses that for her geckos. [MENTION=8562]acpart[/MENTION] ~ Please share how you use Repashy's Calcium Plus multivitamins along with UVB lighting for your Lygodactylus williamsi.

I use Zoo Med's Reptisun UVB lighting for 3 Phelsuma. I leave it on during the day. A couple years ago I relocated one 18 inch Slimline fixtures to be perpendicular to the length of their enclosure instead of parallel to it. Those 3 geckos are totally dependent upon their UVB lighting for vitamin D synthesis. I have kept those geckos that way for about 15 years. For them I use Zoo Med's Reptivite without D3 @ 1 feeding per week and no supplements @ the other feeding per week.
 
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Elizabeth Freer

Active member
Completely confused with vitamins ...
/\ Please re-check post 8. I added a picture of the measuring spoons I use to catch Blaptika dubia.

Not everyone does things the same. Different geckos and different enclosures need different approaches.

Maybe you can get Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one multivitamins) from your friends in America. acpart (Aliza) uses that for her Lygodactylus williamsi.
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Elizabeth Freer

Active member
1.
Exo Terra 12 ”x 12” x 18 ”will be used as the terrarium.
Main light: Exo Terra Reptile UVB100 13W + Exo Terra Natural Light 13W.
Spot warming: Exo Terra Daylight Basking Spot 25W.
Night heating: Exo Terra Heat Wave Rainforest 8 "x 8" 4W. (It will be installed under the bottom of the terrarium in the corner. I think this will create a temperature gradient.)
This is what is available to me.

1. Can you get an Exo Terra 18 x 18 x 24 enclosure instead?
If yes, then your bulbs may need to be stronger.​

2. How many Lygodactylus williamsi will you have?
 
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acpart

Active member
I have done fine with these geckos in 12x12x18 but I'm sure they'll appreciate 18x18x24. I use the Repashy calcium plus to dust the crickets at every feeding (3 times a week) because, as I mentioned before, it's hard to know whether the gecko will get to all the crickets before they groom the supplement off. There are day gecko keepers who don't use UVB for their geckos at all and depend on the calcium and D3 in the fruit food and on the crickets to provide what the geckos need. I kept a gold dust day gecko that way for 12 years and she did well. In my opinion, if you get whatever UVB bulb you can find, use the Pangea food and dust your crickets each time with the Repashy Calcium plus, it's likely that you will have a good outcome.

Aliza
 

Gardener

New member
Hello.
1.
Already bought a Exo Terra 12 ”x 12” x 18 ”terrarium.
2.
I expect a couple of Lygodactylus williamsi.

I studied this forum and decided that the basic formula of nutrition should look like this:
Monday: insects + Repashy Calcium plus.
Wednesday: REPASHY Crested Gecko MRP (or Pangea Fruit Mix ™ With Insects Complete Gecko Diet) What is best to use?
Friday: insects + Repashy Calcium plus.
Saturday: REPASHY Crested Gecko MRP (or Pangea Fruit Mix ™ With Insects Complete Gecko Diet)

I beg you to look at the menu, which I made and comment.
If there are comments, please write the full replacement name. This will help me to make the right order.
Thank you, best regards, Max.
 
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