White discharge looking stuff

[TheSilverWolfie]

So I was just cleaning out my leo's terrarium and when I went to put him back, I noticed the weird whitish, yellow-y discharge looking stuff. It looks like the same whitish stuff when he poos, but there was no poo with this. Im just concerned if i should be worried about this or not. There's also the fact that he hasnt been eating as much as usual. For reference hes about 3 months old, maybe a little older.

 

[acpart]

It's hard to know without a picture, but sometimes they just pee (which is the white stuff) and don't poo.

Aliza

 

[TheSilverWolfie]

Here's a picture

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

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Here's a picture

You're correct. It's probably urates, at least partially. Ideally urates are pure white. Urates may or may not be attached to feces. Often urates are 1/3 to 1/2 the size of feces.

Does he have 24/7 access to fresh water with a water dish located on the cool end?

Yellowish urates could be a sign of dehydration or maybe a supplement overload. Please share his supplements: brand, exact name, & frequency.

 

[TheSilverWolfie]

Yes, he has constant access to fresh water which I change daily. Then there comes the calcium powder, I dust his food daily with Repashy Calcium Plus Vitamin and Calcium supplement which I dust his food daily. This means I also feed him daily. Although since I posted the first thing, he hasn't had a bowel movement at all.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Yes, he has constant access to fresh water which I change daily. Then there comes the calcium powder, I dust his food daily with Repashy Calcium Plus Vitamin and Calcium supplement which I dust his food daily. This means I also feed him daily. Although since I posted the first thing, he hasn't had a bowel movement at all.

Thanks for your quick reply! Let's cut back on dusting. It sounds like you're overdoing it.

IF you think he could be constipated, try just a couple drops of vegetable or olive oil on his snout to get things moving.

I highly recommend using Schedule 144 for Repashy's Calcium Plus instead of dusting your leo's prey daily with it. This schedule has been used and is recommended by Aliza who bred leopard geckos for years and still currently uses Repashy's Calcium Plus for her leos.

Oftentimes experienced keepers and breeders tweak supplements more than the manufacturer suggests based upon the health of their leopard geckos.

Powdered supplements stick to crickets and to dubia better than they do to mealworms or to superworms.



Here's the Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one multivitamins) schedule that GU's acpart (Aliza Arzt) has used for all her leopard geckos ----> breeders and non-breeders. You may need 2 different powders.

-----> February 2019 -- "I've been using an 'every other' feeding schedule with Repashy's Calcium Plus since 2009. Adults get fed Mondays and Thursdays. They get Repashy on Thursdays.

"I fed juveniles and hatchlings 3 times a week. (They would be getting mealworms so there would always be some in their bowls.) For juveniles I'd dust with Repashy's Calcium Plus at every other feeding. For hatchlings 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams, I would also dust every other feeding in addition to keeping plain calcium in the cage 24/7."

Aliza

Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one multivitamins)
(withOUT UVB)​

Metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include uneven (lopsided) gait, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite. Difficulty chewing should be closely monitored.

1. Feeding & Supplementing HATCHLING leopard geckos - 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams ~ Feed 3x per week.

• Feed Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturdays
• Dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins at every other feeding
• ALSO: Keep a bottle cap of plain calcium in the cage 24/7.
• [See dusting chart below]

2. Feeding & Supplementing JUVENILE leopard geckos ~ Feed 3x per week.

• Feed Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturdays
• Dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins at every other feeding
• [See dusting chart below]

3. Feeding & Supplementing ADULT leopard geckos ~ Feed 2x per week.

• Mondays ~ feed (no dusting)
• Thursdays ~ feed & dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins

\/ \/ \/


R = Repashy's Calcium Plus, Cc = pure precipitated calcium carbonate (withOUT vitamin D3)

Week 1 Repashy dusting (for HATCHLINGS & JUVENILES):
M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
............R...........................................R...................


Week 2 Repashy dusting (for HATCHLINGS & JUVENILES):
M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
..................................R..........................................​

-----> For hatchlings 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams: Aliza also places a bottle cap of pure precipitated calcium carbonate (withOUT vitamin D3) in the cage 24/7.

 

[TheSilverWolfie]

Thank you, but what do you recommend I do about him refusing food at the moment?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Thank you, but what do you recommend I do about him refusing food at the moment?

Please share a picture of your whole leo. About how long is he? Do you know his weight?

Maybe he's "letting you know" that he's ready to cut back feeding to 3 (-4) times per week instead of every day. Just feed him a little more at those 3 feedings.

 

[TheSilverWolfie]

I hope this photo works, if not, I can get another. He is about 6in long, maybe a little shorter, and I don't have a way to keep up with his weight at the moment sadly.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

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I hope this photo works, if not, I can get another. He is about 6in long, maybe a little shorter, and I don't have a way to keep up with his weight at the moment sadly.

You've got a handsome leo. He is well fed! Based upon this photo and his nearly 6 inch length, I recommend using Aliza's juvenile leo schedule above. That's sub-schedule #2.

 

[TheSilverWolfie]

Update: He had a bowel movement, but is still refusing food

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Update: He had a bowel movement, but is still refusing food

Did you spot any urates with that bowel movement?

Are you reducing his feeding schedule to 3-4 times weekly?

Many 3 mo leos don't eat as often as you've been feeding yours. That's all part of growing up. Youngsters gradually reduce their needs for daily feeding.

 

[TheSilverWolfie]

Yes, there were urates, and I haven't been able to reduce his feeding simply because he hasn't eaten since Christmas day. I offer him food, and he just looks at it, looks like he is gonna go for the worm, then just closes his eyes and turns his head. I can get you a picture of the bowel movement from last night as well if needed.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Yes, there were urates, and I haven't been able to reduce his feeding simply because he hasn't eaten since Christmas day. I offer him food, and he just looks at it, looks like he is gonna go for the worm, then just closes his eyes and turns his head. I can get you a picture of the bowel movement from last night as well if needed.

No pic, thanks anyway.