Deformed hatching

[Rocsteady1029]

Allee mine is also "spinning" as you say. I took her though her shed yesterday. It's quite amazing how she didn't fight me once I started removing the shed. She just kept licking my fingers as I lightly worked.

Now the next step is getting the little one to eat.

 

[bwoodfield]

WOW is she ever tiny. Something that I noticed on the video and in other people's pictures is that you have her out on the floor. Is that OK for them to be out of their tank like that? I'm alway paranoid about introducing something into Buffy's tank that I clean the crap out of it and sterilize it as much as possible. Seems kind of counter productive if I then let her wander around on the floor or the couch for awhile. Also I'm concerned that because she is so fast that she will take off and end up in the heating vent or something.

 

[geckogirl123]

I don't cull unless they're clearly unable to live a good life. Arlington hatched last year at 1.7g (weight WITH yolk sack, didn't take her weight once it fell off). She had only three toes on one really short arm. She wouldn't eat on her own. The vet had her on a hand fed mix that was high in fat to get her to gain weight. She was hand fed the mix for 2 months, then she started to eat on her own. She's now about 30g, full grown. Very active, alert, eats, sleeps, poops, vet gives her a clean bill of health at every 3 month check up. She does, however, spin when over stimulated. She's not an Enigma... But she'll put her nose on the floor and walk in circles.

The photo is her at 2 months old. My thumb is 2" long.

too cute for words :blushing:

 

[Saskia]

OMG Allee!!!!!! Could she be ANY cuter????????????????????????????????? She is SOOOOOOOOO pretty!!!! What a great work!!! And regarding the wandering around I actually do it too :scratchhead: of course I am always paying attention to them, and I only do it with my most docile animals, which I know won't run away.... :biggrin:

 

[Allee Toler]

OMG Allee!!!!!! Could she be ANY cuter????????????????????????????????? She is SOOOOOOOOO pretty!!!! What a great work!!! And regarding the wandering around I actually do it too :scratchhead: of course I am always paying attention to them, and I only do it with my most docile animals, which I know won't run away.... :biggrin:

Ditto. I have some I'd NEVER let out! They'd be gone, and I'd never see them again. Then there's some like Joel (my Line Bred Snow, Albey's) who will wonder around and just chill, climb up and down the couch from the floor, climb on you, then climb back behind the TV. I've lost him a few times but when it starts to get dark he manages to end up under the rack where it's warm. I never worry about him (How can you really lose an 11" long lizard?). Although now that I have a cat I haven't let any critters out unless Boots is in the bedroom with the door shut! :lol: I don't have any cracks for him to hide in. I have the kitchen blocked off and the heater's in the hall behind a door.

 

[Holly12]

I don't cull unless they're clearly unable to live a good life. Arlington hatched last year at 1.7g (weight WITH yolk sack, didn't take her weight once it fell off). She had only three toes on one really short arm. She wouldn't eat on her own. The vet had her on a hand fed mix that was high in fat to get her to gain weight. She was hand fed the mix for 2 months, then she started to eat on her own. She's now about 30g, full grown. Very active, alert, eats, sleeps, poops, vet gives her a clean bill of health at every 3 month check up. She does, however, spin when over stimulated. She's not an Enigma... But she'll put her nose on the floor and walk in circles.

The photo is her at 2 months old. My thumb is 2" long.

Aww what a cutie pie I just love that picture.

 

[panthergecko]

sorry for your gecko. hope it all goes well

 

[gizmo143]

oh my gosh, Allee love the lil gecko!
love the success stories where the animals get a real chance at life!
Good luck to you guys

 

[JimmyNightlizard]

I disagree. As long as its eating, and not showing any signs of being in pain I think its fine to keep alive however only to be a pet.

i dnt knw... should have culled it...

 

[Saskia]

We see animals with problems all the times, and with all animals I believe the same rule should be applied, if they are able to have a decent life, they should be kept alive! I have a rescue foundation for animals, I have come with 2 legged dogs, cats with no ears, burned animals, deaf animals, blind animals, deformed cats and NEVER we have put one of them to sleep, so far I have never seen a deformed gecko myself but I would definitely try to make it with them, they have the same chance as a person in a wheelchair! and it is even more rewarding to be able to make a succes story out of this like Allee did!

 

[Allee Toler]

I can see the opposite view of my own, and can respectfully disagree with it. Leopard Geckos can live around 25 years. Are you physically going to keep that gecko for it's entire life? If not, how in God's name are you going to 100% guarantee the person who agrees to "not breed it/pet only" won't breed it out of stupidity? Or won't give it away after a couple years without passing on the pet only rule, even if they did, how can you guarantee that gecko's life if it's being passed from owner to owner, as most Leopard Geckos do? I feel it's wrong to put off responsibility. I keep all of my healthy deformities until they die. Even if I had to give away ALL my geckos, I'd still keep those I hatched with issues.

*I too work with a rescue. The Rescue House, it's a cat only rescue. My current cat the ASPCA deemed "unadoptable and dangerous". She was on death row at 9 years old. TRH adopted her, and I adopted her quite a while after she's been in the system. She'll be 11 in September. I'm her 6th house according to her microchip, not including fosters/rescuers. I see cats come in in all kinds of shape. The worst thing is when they declaw them. Poor babies. And outdoor cats? Why would they do that to them? Flea medicine? POISON. Hell even yearly vaccinations are KNOWN To cause cancer! The pros/cons of vaccinating, the cons are significantly worse than the pros! Oh jeez, and the food some people feed their animals! Meow mix? Friskies? Fancy Feast? READ THE LABELS! My cats only receive Wellness CORE at our center, and their wet food is a raw diet. If I could I'd get the cats at the center 100% on a wet food only diet, since it's the healthiest (dry food is carbs, low moisture, and makes cats fat), but you can't let the wet food sit down very long, so we're forced to give some dry food. /rant

 

[Allee Toler]

Allee mine is also "spinning" as you say. I took her though her shed yesterday. It's quite amazing how she didn't fight me once I started removing the shed. She just kept licking my fingers as I lightly worked.

Now the next step is getting the little one to eat.

How's she doing lately? Arlington was "out of it" for quite a few weeks. I didn't hear her make noise/scream for a good 1 1/2 months.

 

[Saskia]

I can see the opposite view of my own, and can respectfully disagree with it. Leopard Geckos can live around 25 years. Are you physically going to keep that gecko for it's entire life? If not, how in God's name are you going to 100% guarantee the person who agrees to "not breed it/pet only" won't breed it out of stupidity? Or won't give it away after a couple years without passing on the pet only rule, even if they did, how can you guarantee that gecko's life if it's being passed from owner to owner, as most Leopard Geckos do? I feel it's wrong to put off responsibility. I keep all of my healthy deformities until they die. Even if I had to give away ALL my geckos, I'd still keep those I hatched with issues.
/rant

That is EXACTLY the reason in the shelter we try to make people understand why it is better NOT TO reproduce dogs and cats.... because there is NO WAY you can be sure how their entire lives will end up and there are SO MANY already looking for a home.... I would have never imaginated "rescuing" geckos, in my country that's like a crazy idea, since there are so few of them, they are not sold on pet stores, only very few breeders (I could probably count them with the fingers in my hands), so I never thaught the same "no reproduction" rule I apply to dogs and cats could apply to geckos, 3 weeks ago I traveled to Atlanta and unbelievably for me I myself adopted 2 geckos at a Petco store in very poor condition, I am now working on them, that, plus, getting to know this forum where I can actually see that there ARE needy geckos I also decided not to reproduce anymore.... I would be more than happy to take care of homeless geckos (I can bring them from the US to Venezuela) if I ever want to have more, or if there is a case of a gecko in need that I can help....
I agree with Allee that deformed, or ill geckos are the first ones you should do whatever you can to maintain with you all their lives...

 

[Rocsteady1029]

Just a little update. Had to start hand feeding, but its going along nicely. Here's some pictures as well. In 4th pic he has food on face and is super pissed. lol

 

[Jasonp85]

Wat are you feeding it?

 

[Saskia]

Hope he starts eating on its own.... he is sooo pretty

 

[adam03]

Just a thought- care for it see what happens- I have a female Leo that with hand feeding and TLC is doing beautiful- can't imagine if we gave up on her.

 

[toadlady]

Wow, is he ever CUTE when he's mad!! I'm glad to hear he's eating for you, and I hope he continues to do well.
I hatched out a deformed baby leo last year also. The baby had one eye much smaller than the other, and his head looked a little misshapen as a result. I was very worried at first, as I'd had a baby some years before with a deformed (stiff) foreleg, and I suspect there was also something internal wrong because it lived only a week. However, Squint is doing very well for me and actually eats better than many of my other youngsters! He's getting quite large and is just beautiful. (I'd post a photo if I'd figured out how to do that yet) Like your 'special' baby and Allee's, Squint will always have a home with me.
Something I was told when our dog went blind was than animals don't understand disability the way people do. They never think how awful it is that they can't see, or walk normally, or whatever; they just accept that this is the way things are, and go on living their lives, enjoying the good things just as much as they would if nothing was 'wrong' with them.

toadlady

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Wow, is he ever CUTE when he's mad!! I'm glad to hear he's eating for you, and I hope he continues to do well.
I hatched out a deformed baby leo last year also. The baby had one eye much smaller than the other, and his head looked a little misshapen as a result. I was very worried at first, as I'd had a baby some years before with a deformed (stiff) foreleg, and I suspect there was also something internal wrong because it lived only a week. However, Squint is doing very well for me and actually eats better than many of my other youngsters! He's getting quite large and is just beautiful. (I'd post a photo if I'd figured out how to do that yet) Like your 'special' baby and Allee's, Squint will always have a home with me.
Something I was told when our dog went blind was than animals don't understand disability the way people do. They never think how awful it is that they can't see, or walk normally, or whatever; they just accept that this is the way things are, and go on living their lives, enjoying the good things just as much as they would if nothing was 'wrong' with them.

toadlady

Here you go, toadlady ~

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Will be looking for a picture of Squint soon :biggrin:

 

[toadlady]

photos of Squint

Here (I hope) are some photos of Squint. I tried to get a good shot of his 'bad side' - the side with the undersized eye - but apparently, he's figured out that that isn't his best angle because I only managed to get a couple of slightly blurry shots of that side of his head. His bad eye looks black in all of them, but it isn't - it's a normal colored leo eye. These were taken today, and he's about nine months old.