Tokay Morphs...
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billewicz
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I assume this one is a recent imported wild caught Tokay. We call these aberrant or 'Fancy' partly because they have not been proven in any captive breeding program but they are much nicer than a normal.
In order to duplicate this visual 'morph', you would need a relative to this Tokay to breed to. Assuming that you have a male in hand, then a sister or the mother paired with him 'might' give you a duplicate.
Welcome to the mostly unknown world of Tokay genetics.
As to value. As a fresh import maybe $125, $225 tops. If the animal has been well acclimated for a couple of months and fully treated for internal parasites then $350 to $450. What you offer him is up to you.
Good luck and enjoy!
In order to duplicate this visual 'morph', you would need a relative to this Tokay to breed to. Assuming that you have a male in hand, then a sister or the mother paired with him 'might' give you a duplicate.
Welcome to the mostly unknown world of Tokay genetics.
As to value. As a fresh import maybe $125, $225 tops. If the animal has been well acclimated for a couple of months and fully treated for internal parasites then $350 to $450. What you offer him is up to you.
Good luck and enjoy!
billewicz
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The point is that you should have her fecal test done and start meds to control her internal parasite load. All wild caught imports have internal parasites. The stress of capture, holding and export causes the the immune system to shut down. The parasites start to overwhelm the animal and if not controlled a.s.a.p., the little girl may parish.
Vet visit, fecal exam and meds runs about $130 here. Worth every penny when you are protecting your investment and the life of a cool little Tokay.
Offer him $75 and see if he goes for it.
Good luck!
Vet visit, fecal exam and meds runs about $130 here. Worth every penny when you are protecting your investment and the life of a cool little Tokay.
Offer him $75 and see if he goes for it.
Good luck!
MC gecko
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We're on the same line because before seeing your message I offert him $ 80.
But he said not below $ 100 but he gives me the vermifuge.
I think I will take her, but not sure for now.
because I wish to head be the same patern as the body, however, as my girlfriend says it makes her unique at the same time
Thanks again Billewicz
But he said not below $ 100 but he gives me the vermifuge.
I think I will take her, but not sure for now.
because I wish to head be the same patern as the body, however, as my girlfriend says it makes her unique at the same time
Thanks again Billewicz
billewicz
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If the head was the same as the body you'd have a granite of sorts worth $850.
:idea:You should pick up a nice male powder blue. Then you could produce powders and sell some of them to fund your collection.:idea:
Good luck!
billewicz
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Very cool red Tokay but it's something else. Super Red's look like the attached photo.Your 'granite' has yellow and orange and maybe even blue so you can call it most anything you want. Everyone else has come up with interesting names since this it is not a 'proven' morph yet.
Enjoy!
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glittery
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Your 'granite' has yellow and orange and maybe even blue so you can call it most anything you want. Everyone else has come up with interesting names since this it is not a 'proven' morph yet.
Enjoy!
Thanks Michael. So what should i can call the name of this two head above?
red tokay like you say. it not really supper red?
Tks you for your reply so much.
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Kita
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I'd like to see pictures in regular sunlight since the lighting is different for each animal and seems to toned to the animal: the first has 'warmer' overall colors where the second is shaded (not considering either alterted, just the camera is picking up colors differently which I have experienced with indoor pictures).
I've seen some like the first that have been called Hypo and I would consider the second a blue granite which granites graded by the amount of normal spotting they have so I would considering it a B or C grade. This is just from an importer, but with no one else classifying like that I figured it was a good method.
I've seen some like the first that have been called Hypo and I would consider the second a blue granite which granites graded by the amount of normal spotting they have so I would considering it a B or C grade. This is just from an importer, but with no one else classifying like that I figured it was a good method.
billewicz
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I would call the darker one a Patternless Olive only if it stays dark all the time. This one is more likely a stressed, but very nice Patternless Green based on the yellow around the feet. It's probably male as well based on the coloring shown here.
The lighter one is not quite completely patternless but a very nice aberrant or 'fancy' non the less. "She" will add the light blue dots to the mix. Their offspring should mostly be green with blue dots. She also has orange or yellow spots that appear dark green. These may, or may not show up in the offspring as well.
My guess is that these aberrant are possible het for patternless green and may throw some patternless offspring as well. You may also get 'patternless' offspring that show some blue dots when they are fired up.
The 'male' patternless as a fully acclimated import would fetch $300 to $500 dollars, and the 'female' aberrant as a fully acclimated import would go between $125 and $250.
Assuming the aberrant is a female, try to get a truly patternless one for your next Tokay. Then all her offspring with that male will be patternless.
Enjoy.
Michael's Tokay Hoard @ www.billewicz.com
The lighter one is not quite completely patternless but a very nice aberrant or 'fancy' non the less. "She" will add the light blue dots to the mix. Their offspring should mostly be green with blue dots. She also has orange or yellow spots that appear dark green. These may, or may not show up in the offspring as well.
My guess is that these aberrant are possible het for patternless green and may throw some patternless offspring as well. You may also get 'patternless' offspring that show some blue dots when they are fired up.
The 'male' patternless as a fully acclimated import would fetch $300 to $500 dollars, and the 'female' aberrant as a fully acclimated import would go between $125 and $250.
Assuming the aberrant is a female, try to get a truly patternless one for your next Tokay. Then all her offspring with that male will be patternless.
Enjoy.
Michael's Tokay Hoard @ www.billewicz.com