Tokay Morphs...

billewicz

billewicz

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Riverside Reptiles said:
Well, if you've had normals pop up from a red x red pairing, then it's not truly simple recessive. If it were truly simple recessive, they'd be 100% red offspring. It's interesting as a lot of the tokay morphs seem to be that way. They're "almost" simple recessive. It'll be very interesting to see if the normals turn out to be hets. Or, if it turns out like more of a co-dom gene where the normals are all just normals and there no hets.
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After the first one, I had a discussion with some folks who really know their Ball Python genetics. It is not uncommon in recessive pairings to get a 'mutt'. They had another word for it, but a genetic glitch once in a while. After the second one a year later which came from a mother & son pairing, I'm not so sure.

Time will tell, I hope!
 
XoVictoryXo

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I am in love with this guy!
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tombo46

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Thought it was time I uploaded a "few" photo's of some of the morphs I'm working with. Sorry for the inconsistency! I just chose a load of pictures at random haha.



















 
billewicz

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tombo46 said:
Nope. Got one from my nose though when I can find it...

In the mean time, Here's one of a friend of mine attempting what I did...

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That is AWESOME!!!!

I really want to do a photo shoot with a great big male clamped on in front of some good ink. The classic would be a neck, shoulder and head tattoo-scape with the Tokay on the earlobe.

(And yes, no animals would be harmed in the making of this photo art. I can't say that for the human talent though!)
 
XoVictoryXo

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amazing pictures tombo!
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is this normal for them to get this chunky as adults? or is this a little overweight :)
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WOW! WHAT A GORGEOUS TOKAY, what morph is this? I am in complete awe !
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last question lol
are you intentionally making them bite you, lol why??? I see you sticking your finger in their face- OWCH LOL
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tombo46

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XoVictoryXo said:
amazing pictures tombo!
(newbie question alert)


is this normal for them to get this chunky as adults? or is this a little overweight :)
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and....
WOW! WHAT A GORGEOUS TOKAY, what morph is this? I am in complete awe !
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last question lol
are you intentionally making them bite you, lol why??? I see you sticking your finger in their face- OWCH LOL
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To answer your questions...

1. YES, it is overweight! If you can help it don't let your gecko get to this size. This was taken the day I purchased him and I've been trying to get his weight down ever since. It's been a long time now and he's hardly dropped anything. I'm taking him the vets to see if he has a "problem" soon.

2. I call this "melanistic". His dark colours are black like this and his lighter colours are a middle shade of grey. You can still see some very slight dark orange spotting when he's bright if you look closely.

3. I never let them intentionally bite me haha. The first one in the pictures got my while I was taking pictures of a few new additions from Hamm. It's not pleasant when they lock on so I try and avoid it at all costs. The second picture is me doing a "nose beep" on my tame Calico tokay. It's just a way of saying "hey! look how tame my tokay is! my finger is right in front of him and he's not even gaping!

Hope this helps =]
 
XoVictoryXo

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I have seen a whole bunch of chunky tokay's on the interwebs, I just wondered what the proper adult weight should look like.
lol OK because i was shocked- from the pictures you made it seem as though the Tokay bite is not that fierce and you weren't cautious of it AT ALL hahah... :) from the looks of your hands I just decided I am going to wear gloves if i ever handle a tokay lol I am a wimp!
That melanistic is a TRUE beauty! wow. he looks like a deep blue to me. I imagine one similar to him must be hard to find like most melanistics.

Thanks for all your responses, i am hoping to be an owner of a Tokay in the far future and in the meantime really enjoy learning all i can about them :)
 
aquamentus_11

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i really need to unsubscribe to this thread......i can't have one for 1.5y TOKAY TORTURE
i'll be looking your way though, mike, when the time comes
 
billewicz

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Hey good luck! By then we hope to have some more morph genetics worked out and Tokay are as hot as Ball Pythons, HA! :banana:
 
Kita

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XoVictoryXo said:
is this normal for them to get this chunky as adults? or is this a little overweight :)
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People don't understand that this is badly overweight. Proof to that is a thread on another forum of a 190 gram Tokay with flab rolls on his neck and sides that the owner proudly announces has gotten this way from eating less than 1 adult dubia every two weeks. Everyone is praising him on how great it is because there are hardly any Tokay people on there.
 
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