??? Leo Not Eating

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iluvfoals

iluvfoals

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Hey everyone--

My 9 month female leo isn't eating. She isn't impacted-- her substrate is paper towel. It started when I put a new 3-4 month old baby leo in. Could that leo have something and gave it to her, causing her not to eat? Or something else... she hasn't for about 2-3 days. Should I consider taking the new one out or splittig the tank? Or should I return him to PetSmart? :( The leo is my first one and I REALLY don't want anything to happen to her...
Normally she was a great eater. I have 2 others in there-- the 3-4 month old and another female tangerine. She hasn't lost any weight.

Thanks-any help appreciated.
 
Corwin's Keeper

Corwin's Keeper

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I hope your female is ok!!

I believe the general advice is not to keep two geckos together (or risk bullying and potentially death). IF you are set on keeping two together this is recommended (straight from Elizabeth's Care Sheet):

(1) Quarantine Recommendations
Any new gecko should be quarantined for a minimum of 60 days prior to introducing her/him to the other geckos in the same cage. 60 days gives adequate time to check for parasites, cryptosporidia, and the beginnings of coccidia plus. 90 days is even better. 3-6 months of quarantine are recommended if your new gecko is imported or wild caught.

If you can, fill this out to see if there are any other problems.

Gender:
Age:
Weight:
How big was the reptile when you first acquired it?
Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):
Captive bred or wild caught?
Do you handle him? If so how often?

Enclosure:

Cage: type, size:
Substrate provided?
What types of hiding places are provided?
Is there a humidity hide? location?
Please describe any other furnishings:

Lighting:

Artificial lighting?
incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): wattage(s) ?
fluorescent (tube bulbs)?

Temperature:

Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage? what type?
What is the temperature in the warm part of the cage? under the warm hide? In the coolest part?
What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature? hot rock, UTH, heat light, ceramic heater, other:
Are you using a thermostat?
Which hide does she/he spend most of her time?

Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much?

Humidity:

Is the humidity measured? Range:


List other animals that are kept in the same cage:
Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months)
Are any of your other pets ill?
List recent changes in the environment, if any:

Diet:

Insects, list type?
Are they “gut loaded”? If so with?
How often do you feed your reptile?
Please list any supplements used. How are they given and how often?
What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both?
Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without?
Multivitamins?

Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:

If your reptile is sick, please describe the signs and how long your reptile has been showing these signs:
Is your reptile’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased?
Is your reptile’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased?
Have you noticed any of the following?
Weight loss, Weight gain
Discharge from the eyes or nose
Increased breathing rate or effort
Change in the droppings
urates white or yellowish
Abnormal skin color or shedding
Parasites on the skin or in the feces
Weakness
 
iluvfoals

iluvfoals

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Gender: f
Age: 9-10 mos
Weight: 26 grams (no weight lost)
She was about 4 mos when I first got her from Petco.
Captive Bred
I handle about 2 times each day

No weight loss, parasites or any of the following you listed at the bottom (like "abnormal skin color") she moves around quite a bit. I have a paper towel tube with nothing on it that she loves to sleep in.

I feed mealies, and I use the calcium spray. Should I use dust?
They are usually gut loaded with veggies and I feed every day or every other day.
The other pets are not ill and the one is about the same age (female, also)
and a 3-4 month baby. The baby was health checked at Petco before hand. The substrate is paper towel in a 30 gallon tank and I don't know the wattage but I use heat lamps and a small undertank heater. The temp is 90-95, usually. There is the hot side and a cool side.
 
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bud1988

bud1988

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If i recall a few days ago, Maggot strongly suggested you split All of them up and buy a new home for all of your Leos.
A 20 Gallon Long is bug enough for 1 Leo.
 
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Duster

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If your 9-10 month old leopard gecko is only 26 grams then something is seriously wrong. Judging from the pictures you posted in the other forum thread I would say she weighs more than that.

I will however tell you to get the 3-4 month leo out of that cage ASAP. Unless you are 100% sure they are all females, and they are all the same size this shouldn't even be entering your mind as a proper way to care for them.
 
iluvfoals

iluvfoals

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Gender: F Age: 9-10 mos Weight: 26 grams Was about 4 mos when I got her
Captive bred I handle about 2 times each day

30 gallon glass aquarium Paper towel substrate 1 rock "cave" hide, 1 humid hide
Humidity: (we are in Florida) 0%-40% Other: Jade plant, lizard ladder

Lighting: heat lamps (wattage unknown) and 1 small undertank heater heat: 90-95 usually DAY, 85-90 NIGHT

90-95 warm ?? Cool side (1 thermometer, the Petco one with humidity and temp.)

Other animals: 8-9 month female leo, 3-4 month leo (sex??)

Diet:

Mealies w/ calcium spray (should I use dust??) Fresh water supplied daily in a shallow bowl.

The illnesses you posted at the bottom? Nope. None. No weight loss or anything. Just suddenly-- I won't eat.
 
iluvfoals

iluvfoals

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Duster said:
If your 9-10 month old leopard gecko is only 26 grams then something is seriously wrong. Judging from the pictures you posted in the other forum thread I would say she weighs more than that.

I will however tell you to get the 3-4 month leo out of that cage ASAP. Unless you are 100% sure they are all females, and they are all the same size this shouldn't even be entering your mind as a proper way to care for them.
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Maybe I am using the scale wrong. Maybe it's on kilograms or something... and when I hold her, she feels at least 35 grams. But, maybe not, because the point of this is that she isn't eating. And we are 100% that she and the other one are females. No bulges and no black dots at all.
 
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Duster

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So again, you're going to have to separate them. Your leos are not compatible at this point in time. Maybe somewhere down the road they may be, but right now your 3-4 month leo should be in quarantine in its own properly set up cage.
 
iluvfoals

iluvfoals

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Duster said:
So again, you're going to have to separate them. Your leos are not compatible at this point in time. Maybe somewhere down the road they may be, but right now your 3-4 month leo should be in quarantine in its own properly set up cage.
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But I don't have money to buy another tank. What can I do? Why can't I split the 30 gallon just like that?
 
iluvfoals

iluvfoals

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What am I supposed to do if the nearest store is almost a 45 minute drive away and all week we're busy and stuff, what am I supposed to do until I get another tank? I mean, I have a 10 gallon, but it is full right now with anoles.
 
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Duster

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So how do you propose to keep a thermal gradient across a 30 gallon tank? You have to provide a hot and cool side for each leo.

Alright, lets put it this way, since you're so worried about your 9 month old gecko in relation to the 3-4 month old that you can't even seem to take care of...

Let's say, on a whim, you've decided to buy a leopard gecko (your 3-4 month old in this case). Now this gecko was supposedly "checked out" by the CHAIN pet store. I would take that with a grain of salt. For all you know, you're now bringing home a leo that is a carrier for crypto, and since you simply dumped him/her in with your other leos they are now carrying this devastating disease as well.

Your 9 month old isn't eating.
Point #1: Could be she now has a new disease that isn't even traceable until she's dead.
Point #2: Could be she isn't happy with a new tank mate. If that's the case, odds are she will kill your new leopard gecko without a thought since she is so much larger than the new one.

What does this all lead down to? You're either going to end up with 3 dead leopard geckos, or you're going to have to separate them and provide proper care.
 
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bud1988

bud1988

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iluvfoals said:
What am I supposed to do if the nearest store is almost a 45 minute drive away and all week we're busy and stuff, what am I supposed to do until I get another tank? I mean, I have a 10 gallon, but it is full right now with anoles.
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Not to be rude, but it seems like you have WAY to many reptiles..
3 Leos which are not doing well , and a 10 gallon tank full of Anoles?

You should see if someone will adopt some of your animals .
 
XoVictoryXo

XoVictoryXo

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See if you can get one of your parents to read this message board, also you can print out the caresheet and give it to your parents..
I would return the baby gecko ASAP please :(
 
Saskia

Saskia

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Do as you want, since you are looking for advice but refusing to take any good advice given, why do you seek advice anyways??? your 9 month old will most likely kill your 3 month old soon enough and you will have no more problem then!
 
MauricesExoticPets

MauricesExoticPets

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iluvfoals said:
Everyone says that 10 gallon is big enough. Can't I spilt the 30 gallon?
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Nobody who keeps leopard geckos seriously houses them in anything within an enclosure that has the floor space of a 10 gallon aquarium at the size of yours.

Hatchlings sure, near adults no!

In an emergency can it be done, yes, much the same way they can handle being in a deli cup for the duration of a reptile show over the weekend, but long term it is nothing short of a bad idea.

30" x 12.5" of floor space per leopard gecko except when breeding where two may share that area.

Maurice Pudlo
 
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